Please, Don't Buy Gil!

[MomomiMomi]

You dont.
They are pushing people into your source of income, because they cannot compete with fully automated never-banned bots. This mass of people drops the price multiple times to the point where you are doing many times less gil than you would do if that never happened.
Not only droping the prices, but also RMT accounts accumulates incredible amount of gils and use the visiting system to flood your server market with stuff, dropping prices even more, because they could make money out of it by just buying cheap and selling for more.
There is less gil circulating between players, because a lot of it goes into the piggy bank of RMTs, and you are doing less gil as a final result.

This boggles my mind how people refuse to see the full picture.

That's now how it works. I've been at this "game" for 20+ years now. RMT farm bots have pretty much always been a benefit of farming the items that nobody else wants to.

[Nedkel]

You call lower prices making it worse? I only see upsides. Bots don't farm the stuff I do (EX and Raid drops) and I get to buy my raid consumables cheap. The only losers I see, are people trying to monopolise certain goods on the MB.

But people who are not bots are farming the exact same thing as you and they are tanking prices of the stuff you are selling down, dropping prices because there is so big competition on the market.
You dont benefit from it unless you are omnicrafter yourself.

Last few months in stromblood was absolute trash for making gil for anyone who is not bot or crafter.

[Machi_Machiavelli]

Gil buyers should be banned, bots should be banned, and people selling the new Hooded Fireglass Leather Vest for 20mil should be banned lol. You mentioned that bots would go away if the buyers would stop buying. The logic would work both ways: If prices weren't so rediculous the buyers wouldn't buy and the bots would go away. But hopefully, the world visit feature will straighten out the MB on all server soon enough.

[Tone19]

... and people selling the new Hooded Fireglass Leather Vest for 20mil should be banned lol...

[Saintly]

-snip-

Even tho i can see that you got good intentions making this thread, i don't think you gonna make anyone who RMT change his ways one bit.
What would help tho, is SE becoming far more strict when it comes to boting/RMT.

Even tho they obviously try to fight RMT/boting and kudos to them for that, its not enough.
What i'd love to see is adding anti-bot protection but them being sly about it, no need to announce that they gonna one or when a update is released for it.

Would it solve the bot-RMT problem? Obviously no, but hopefully it'll help weed out some bots, especially those who are not as obvious, like fishing bots.

[RareItems]

FYI: Aethersand bots are still here lol. Just saw the same group still gathering 4.0 Aethersands. If the World Visit system was not in place, Crystals would still be 3 gil at stacks of 9999 sitting on MB xD.

[DonovanLifeweaver]

overpricing, not undercutting.

undercutting is actually done to force the lowering of prices to kill rmt not the other way around.
I undercut everything I see exactly to kill rmt busyness. undercutting only harms those who have the delusion that being rich in a video game will make them famous IRL.

also ..as long as people will overprice to brag about their wealth... RMT will thrive... but saying so is blasphemy... towards those who are dreaming of having their wealth in a video game.

[Fynlar]

I think gil is nearly worthless once you have a certain amount. For example about,200-250 million, enough to buy a large house,decorate it and drop 20-30 million on things like Night Pegasus Whistles.

The kind of stuff you're talking about is cosmetic fluff that anyone could easily live without, though. I'm talking about more practical uses, like equipment and materia, stuff that you would actually need to buy to stay competitive. That sort of thing doesn't happen nearly as much in this game, because quests/dungeons/raids/content provide it all for you. I was needing to spend gil in FFXI constantly on things I actually needed for combat, whereas in this game I can't remember the last time I spent any money for that same reason.

[TwistedTea]

The kind of stuff you're talking about is cosmetic fluff that anyone could easily live without, though. I'm talking about more practical uses, like equipment and materia, stuff that you would actually need to buy to stay competitive. That sort of thing doesn't happen nearly as much in this game, because quests/dungeons/raids/content provide it all for you. I was needing to spend gil in FFXI constantly on things I actually needed for combat, whereas in this game I can't remember the last time I spent any money for that same reason.

Not disagreeing with you but for many players, glamour, housing,mounts,minion collection etc is endgame content

There are stats out there which indicate that Savage raiders etc, are a minority.

I think part of the gil buying crowd fall into this 'casual' demographic who either don't have the time or can't be bothered to put in the effort to grind for gil.

[Fynlar]

Not disagreeing with you but for many players, glamour, housing,mounts,minion collection etc is endgame content

That doesn't make any of it necessary for one's actual performance in raids and the like. I'm not talking about just Savage or harder stuff either. Even pre-savage stuff needs at least some level of gear to access (which, like I said, is all provided for you in this game just by doing the content leading up to it)