Please, Don't Buy Gil!

[Nedkel]

That's now how it works. I've been at this "game" for 20+ years now. RMT farm bots have pretty much always been a benefit of farming the items that nobody else wants to.

This is a big bull poo and you know that.
They know how to make gil, and how to make it fast, simply selling crystals wont make it, leave alone paying for the running business. There are so many advanced bots who could farm feats, dungeons or even pvp.

[MomomiMomi]

This is a big bull poo and you know that.
They know how to make gil, and how to make it fast, simply selling crystals wont make it, leave alone paying for the running business. There are so many advanced bots who could farm feats, dungeons or even pvp.

The only meaningful thing they can farm in dungeons is amassing gil from the kills. I've seen them do it, too. Ended up in their party once or twice in my whole time playing this game.

The only thing they can farm in PvP is exp. They have better sources of that elsewhere.

[Saintly]

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Even tho i can see that you got good intentions making this thread, i don't think you gonna make anyone who RMT change his ways one bit.
What would help tho, is SE becoming far more strict when it comes to boting/RMT.

Even tho they obviously try to fight RMT/boting and kudos to them for that, its not enough.
What i'd love to see is adding anti-bot protection but them being sly about it, no need to announce that they gonna one or when a update is released for it.

Would it solve the bot-RMT problem? Obviously no, but hopefully it'll help weed out some bots, especially those who are not as obvious, like fishing bots.

[NessaWyvern]

That's now how it works. I've been at this "game" for 20+ years now. RMT farm bots have pretty much always been a benefit of farming the items that nobody else wants to.

Kinda sucks for gatherers though, I had to pick up crafting as well to make my gatherers worth anything.

[TwistedTea]

I don't understand why anyone would feel the need to buy gil in a game where gil is nearly worthless.

I think gil is nearly worthless once you have a certain amount. For example about,200-250 million, enough to buy a large house,decorate it and drop 20-30 million on things like Night Pegasus Whistles.

You might need less if you're a self-sufficient omnicrafter.

But gil bypasses a lot of grind. I don't enjoy Eureka but wanted the hairstyle. So I bought it off the Market Board.

If I don't feel like gearing up my alts jobs with tomes or crafting gear, I can just buy crafted gear off the Market Board.

Don't feel like camping a housing placard with the hidden rng timer?

Buy a small FC house for about 40 -50 million off the housing Discord...

This is not a defence of RMT or people who buy gil.

I hope SE takes a much harsher stance and bans both buyers and sellers.

BTN is something I enjoy but seeing the gathering bots farm 24/7 for months (often well-known players/FCs) made me switch to crafting for serious gil.

[RareItems]

FYI: Aethersand bots are still here lol. Just saw the same group still gathering 4.0 Aethersands. If the World Visit system was not in place, Crystals would still be 3 gil at stacks of 9999 sitting on MB xD.

[DonovanLifeweaver]

overpricing, not undercutting.

undercutting is actually done to force the lowering of prices to kill rmt not the other way around.
I undercut everything I see exactly to kill rmt busyness. undercutting only harms those who have the delusion that being rich in a video game will make them famous IRL.

also ..as long as people will overprice to brag about their wealth... RMT will thrive... but saying so is blasphemy... towards those who are dreaming of having their wealth in a video game.

[Fynlar]

I think gil is nearly worthless once you have a certain amount. For example about,200-250 million, enough to buy a large house,decorate it and drop 20-30 million on things like Night Pegasus Whistles.

The kind of stuff you're talking about is cosmetic fluff that anyone could easily live without, though. I'm talking about more practical uses, like equipment and materia, stuff that you would actually need to buy to stay competitive. That sort of thing doesn't happen nearly as much in this game, because quests/dungeons/raids/content provide it all for you. I was needing to spend gil in FFXI constantly on things I actually needed for combat, whereas in this game I can't remember the last time I spent any money for that same reason.

[TwistedTea]

The kind of stuff you're talking about is cosmetic fluff that anyone could easily live without, though. I'm talking about more practical uses, like equipment and materia, stuff that you would actually need to buy to stay competitive. That sort of thing doesn't happen nearly as much in this game, because quests/dungeons/raids/content provide it all for you. I was needing to spend gil in FFXI constantly on things I actually needed for combat, whereas in this game I can't remember the last time I spent any money for that same reason.

Not disagreeing with you but for many players, glamour, housing,mounts,minion collection etc is endgame content

There are stats out there which indicate that Savage raiders etc, are a minority.

I think part of the gil buying crowd fall into this 'casual' demographic who either don't have the time or can't be bothered to put in the effort to grind for gil.

[Fynlar]

Not disagreeing with you but for many players, glamour, housing,mounts,minion collection etc is endgame content

That doesn't make any of it necessary for one's actual performance in raids and the like. I'm not talking about just Savage or harder stuff either. Even pre-savage stuff needs at least some level of gear to access (which, like I said, is all provided for you in this game just by doing the content leading up to it)