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    Please, Don't Buy Gil!

    Why someone buy gil on illegal sites?

    The reasons vary widely, but do you know the harm of this practice?

    Many servers are filled with bots taking up the space that a player could have without having to be in huge queues to get in the game. Restrictions on new character creation and transfers could be lifted if not for so many bots created.

    Not to mention the economics of the game. The gil that you buy from illegal sites is generated by bots who repeatedly get dropped items and resources and sell them on the Market Board for ridiculously low prices. This pulls the prices of those items down, disrupting the profit of those trying to make money via drops.

    FFXIV is not a difficult game to make money. It takes a while to learn the many possible ways to make a profit, but once learned, the formula can always be used. We have gathering and crafting professions capable of generating good profits. Palace of the Dead, weekly quests, roulettes and many other ways complement the profits without much effort or time within the game.

    So why bother to buy something illegally? If this hurts the server the most, why do it?

    You be at risk to be banned or hacked and get some viruses on your PC, also.

    As long as there are people buying gil illegally there will be bots disrupting the economy and the server population harming everyone. If there were no people willing to buy gil on illegal sites, bot makers would lose motivation to hinder us by diverting resources that could be used by SE to make the game safer and more fun for all of us.
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    Last edited by Wanzzo; 08-01-2019 at 01:28 AM.

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    Why someone buy gil on illegal sites?
    Because he want to get banned or hacked. xD
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    You had me until you mentioned harming profits of other players. The segregated MB system is a failure that allows players to corner their own section of it and jack up prices to exorbitant ammounts. The economy they have created needs to be brought to the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You had me until you mentioned harming profits of other players. The segregated MB system is a failure that allows players to corner their own section of it and jack up prices to exorbitant ammounts. The economy they have created needs to be brought to the ground.
    So its better if RMT companies run over MB and destroy economy with their bots, flooding the market with stuff that would normally be worth to farm and sell?

    Think about it, how Norwegians even exist with the prices of their stuff in their shop, but managed to be one of the countries with highest living standards? Doesnt that means, maybe everything there is expensive, but the amount of money they make is so large that they dont care?
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 08-01-2019 at 01:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You had me until you mentioned harming profits of other players. The segregated MB system is a failure that allows players to corner their own section of it and jack up prices to exorbitant ammounts. The economy they have created needs to be brought to the ground.
    A free market needs to remain a free market, for better or worse. Minus the buying of gil, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You had me until you mentioned harming profits of other players. The segregated MB system is a failure that allows players to corner their own section of it and jack up prices to exorbitant ammounts. The economy they have created needs to be brought to the ground.
    It's not everyone that do this. And the negative effects of the bots are upon all of us. Even to the exorbitant price-guy (hehehe).
    The point I'm stating here is: to buy gil is to provide reasons for bot keep annoying us all disrupting the economic system. I agree that is not a perfect economic system, but this not justify it to become worse...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You had me until you mentioned harming profits of other players. The segregated MB system is a failure that allows players to corner their own section of it and jack up prices to exorbitant ammounts. The economy they have created needs to be brought to the ground.
    Best way to do that is to have things available from vendors to create a floor price *cough old materias cough*
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Best way to do that is to have things available from vendors to create a floor price *cough old materias cough*
    Old materia is available from vendors. Not for gil, granted, but it's definitely available.

    You can get grade 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 crafting/gathering materia for scrips (which are also basically free via custom deliveries)

    You can get at least grade 6 combat materia for poetics (in Idyllshire).
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    People who buy gil are soo lazy.

    And like they risk getting hacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You had me until you mentioned harming profits of other players. The segregated MB system is a failure that allows players to corner their own section of it and jack up prices to exorbitant ammounts. The economy they have created needs to be brought to the ground.
    So...you mean regular commerce?
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