Anyone know if blocking mitigation has been increased from 20%?

[TheForce]

No other tank in the game can block. The fact that Sheltron doesn't stack on top of your basal block rate is a complete non-issue. You're already taking less damage than any other tank at baseline.

This is incorrect. Passage of Arms also gives you 100% block for 18 seconds.

I'm sorry, but you have lost all credibility after listing PoA as a viable option for personal mitigation. If a Paladin is using PoA for its full duration for no other reason than to just block damage, there's most likely a problem. Sitting in one spot doing absolutely nothing except blocking is not good.

[IntrovertAnt]

I'm sorry, but you have lost all credibility after listing PoA as a viable option for personal mitigation. If a Paladin is using PoA for its full duration for no other reason than to just block damage, there's most likely a problem. Sitting in one spot doing absolutely nothing except blocking is not good.

See my above post. Again, shouldn't be your first choice to use for personal mitigation but the fact is is that you do get 100% block from it and in VERY SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES I think its ok to use it (such as the above example in the Twinning dungeon).

[Stormbrand]

See my above post. Again, shouldn't be your first choice to use for personal mitigation but the fact is is that you do get 100% block from it and in VERY SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES I think its ok to use it (such as the above example in the Twinning dungeon).

literally better to use clemency if you going to sacrifice a GCD, so no PoA should never be used for self mitigation , its a trash ability in that regard and its only purpose is for group mitigation.

[Lyth]

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Clemency isn't mitigation.

[Stormbrand]

Clemency isn't mitigation.

doesnt matter if it is or isnt, it will keep you alive better than PoA ever will.

[TheForce]

If you're not using the block effect, then it should be removed. It's still usable in prog in a pinch. That's not to mention the fact that PLD has more raidwide defensives than any other tank.

I'm all for buffs that make sense. Asking for Divine Veil to be applied to the entire group without a heal requirement would be one of those. But complaining about a lack of personal defensive power on a tank that is incredibly robust defensively just doesn't make sense.

The fact that your first instinct is to say that the skill should be outright removed rather than tweaked to be made useful is very, very worrisome.

[TheForce]

You literally just asked for blocking to be nerfed for no reason. Nobody is asking for PLD buffs, just telling you that you're wrong when it comes to this idea of PLD being op, when despite its personal mitigation being solid, it still lags behind the other tanks ever so slightly, which is fine, since it was much bigger of a gap in Stormblood. Also there's zero reason to ever use the passage of arms block effect when Sheltron is available every 25 seconds and doesn't cost you DPS.

There is one reason I can think of. In E1S, Tanks are gonna take 3 Tank Busters consecutively during Phase 1. You'll be able to shelltron the first and second hit, but if you wanna guarantee a block the third, PoA does come in handy there...but yeah, that's an isolated case. In 99% of this game's situations, PoA is a very bad tool to be used for solely personal mitigation. You're essentially a sitting duck.

[TheForce]

I'm not saying it should be your first choice of personal mitigation ever, BUT, when you've blown all your cooldowns in the Twinning dungeon on the previous mob packs on the bridge area just before the last boss due to a healer not doing their job, and you get to those mobs that do that flurry attack (multiple hard blows in quick succession), and you're out of oath gauge, using PoA for those 3-5 seconds in a pinch has saved my ass and my parties ass.

Again, never your first choice for persona mitigation, but you shouldn't say things like "should absolutely never be used as a personal mitigation cooldown."

I agree with this. Literally only use it if it becomes your absolute last line of defense, and when you are in imminent danger of dying unless you do SOMETHING.

[Stormbrand]

That depends on the situation. Self-healing doesn't prevent you from getting oneshot by a tankbuster. If your question is why PLD's single target mitigation suite is the way it is, then Clemency doesn't enter into the discussion at all.

I never said it did, for dungeon trash clemency is better than PoA, PoA only has 1 purpose, which is raid mitigation not for self. The 18s block is a pure noob trap and it separates the good players from the bad.

[IntrovertAnt]

I never said it did, for dungeon trash clemency is better than PoA, PoA only has 1 purpose, which is raid mitigation not for self. The 18s block is a pure noob trap and it separates the good players from the bad.

If you are doing dungeon trash then you don't need to mitigate damage to your party 99% of the time. You as the tank are usually the only one taking damage. Why not use an ability that gives you 100% block rate in place of say, a shelltron? (IE PoA) Especially if it'll be back up by the time you get to the boss. I personally don't really do it except in rare circumstances, but it sounds like its a good idea especially if i want to make my oath gauge for shelltrons go further to make it easier on my healer.

Also, keep in mind that after I reread the posts, no one said anything about staying in PoA for the full 18 seconds. Someone only assumed that's what they meant and ran with it. In my example above in the Twinning, the flurry attacks of those pixel enemies only last like 2-3 seconds, but 5 of them do it at the same time. Had I had tried to charge up clemency, assuming I had mana left over from doing my magic AOE combo, I probably would have died.

Again, I'm not saying to use PoA for personal mitigation as your first choice. But to blurt out hyperboli like "PoA only has 1 purpose, which is raid mitigation not for self" is just not using your brain.

I think that in situations where there isn't raid wide dmg going out, it's ok to use a defensive CD like PoA that gives you 100% block rate to block incoming dmg that would kill you. Plain and simple.