Have you watched the video ? This means that they need to either remove regen heal from summoner or make it not stackable. Thats has nothing to do with healing is useless. If it was useless u would see them killing it WITHOUT HEALS....E4S Clear no healer
Feel like this has interesting implications for fight design/healer design.



They never said that the video meant that healing is useless, however, if you want to go to extremes, then one implication you can make from watching the video is that dedicated healing is quite useless.
Which is a problem, because Squeen has been preaching for a dedication to healing.




Ah healing, ever unique. The only role that not only converges to pressing one button over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again as the skill ceiling approaches, but has a sizeable fanbase that, defying all sense, cheers this dreadful state of affairs on.
Nope. Goodbye
On my now expired main account I played the job that bears the Scholar job symbol. I got as far as Titan Savage until I called it quits. Originally I wasn't even a healer main but no one else in the guild was willing to play a healer other than White Mage for the savage static so I went "SCH". The job isn't the Scholar I loved in Heavensward nor the one I liked in Stormblood. Fairy management and dots used to be the big things for me. Nowadays the fairy is not far from a minion and I suspect it will be reduced to a non-placeable graphical effect in the next expac. So Scholar is shelved until some improvement happens.
Bitter? Oh yeah. Quit healing completely? Nah. Healers are super-good for skipping dungeon queues now. I think the adventurer in need -algorithm is borked, I've had instaqueue as a WHM every time despite AiN being tank.

Your experiences kinda highlight the problem of getting our voices heard. It almost doesn't even matter how cruddy the job design is, 25% of the cast of any duty need to be healers, and as long as that doesn't change (DF itself is a significant hurdle to making that happen), then people will play it because "nobody else will, and I want to play with my friends" or "I would rather skip the queue than play something else."On my now expired main account I played the job that bears the Scholar job symbol. I got as far as Titan Savage until I called it quits. Originally I wasn't even a healer main but no one else in the guild was willing to play a healer other than White Mage for the savage static so I went "SCH". The job isn't the Scholar I loved in Heavensward nor the one I liked in Stormblood. Fairy management and dots used to be the big things for me. Nowadays the fairy is not far from a minion and I suspect it will be reduced to a non-placeable graphical effect in the next expac. So Scholar is shelved until some improvement happens.
Bitter? Oh yeah. Quit healing completely? Nah. Healers are super-good for skipping dungeon queues now. I think the adventurer in need -algorithm is borked, I've had instaqueue as a WHM every time despite AiN being tank.
Other stuff compounds the issue further, like a void of popular healer-centric content creators, the frankly rude attitude of getting told "calm down, just wait and see" every time we actually speak up and tell the devs "please don't do those changes to my job, they are half-baked at best," only for our opinions to not change at all when we actually get them... I'm bitter too, and I kinda want to quit healing... But as long as people need healing, some of us have to choose between our friends and are our jobs. Never a fun decision to make, regardless of which you go with.


Hear, hear.
I absolutely feel you. Being a returning player from Heavensward, I sincerely hope they reintroduce some diversity to bring back the job's niche. I.e. Sch's DoTs, and fairy management. For me, at least, Sch at present seems like a shell of what it once was. I still enjoy the healing aspect of it enough to main it, but losing all of my DoTs -- much of the job's fun and complexity, imo -- makes Sch seem neutered.
The homogenisation of the job roles is something I don't agree with. Although I understand the devs want to promote accessibility and avoid some jobs being preferred over others in certain content, I am genuinely saddened to see this come at the cost of a job's niche and diversity.
I won't quit healing for as long as I play, but I do wish I could get the job which I once loved back.
Edit: With that said, if the state of affairs stay the way they are now, I'll definitely feel disincentivised to return once my sub runs out by the end of summer.


Almost 5.3, took a break when I got burnt out, came back, still healing.
I was around when this thread started, and I'm somewhat sad to say that yeah, as of this week, I've finally quit healing for good.
I pretty much immediately quit healing dungeons after hitting level 80 on a healer, but I kept healing for my static, which I organized, and felt beholden to.
Now that I need to reform one for 5.4 it's pretty much over. It's gonna be strange thinking about fights differently, and working with friends from a different view.
Perfection is an unattainable ideal. 'Tis the paradox of the immaculate carrot. - Cookingway


Won't be too far behind you friend. I told myself I'd cancel my sub after clearing TEA and finally, after having like 3 statics disband because of personal drama (don't raid with couples, that shit always ends poorly. ) I've finally managed to reach enraged. After that's done I'll cancel my sub until SE decides they actually give a shit about healers.I was around when this thread started, and I'm somewhat sad to say that yeah, as of this week, I've finally quit healing for good.
I pretty much immediately quit healing dungeons after hitting level 80 on a healer, but I kept healing for my static, which I organized, and felt beholden to.
Now that I need to reform one for 5.4 it's pretty much over. It's gonna be strange thinking about fights differently, and working with friends from a different view.
Wish you the best of luck in your raiding escapades. Hope a new perspective is better than the healing one. God did spamming broil in these past 2 tiers get old.
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