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    The sad part is that I actually agree that the new sounds are terrible but you’ve all come across as such petulant whiners that I find it nearly impossible to sympathize with you. From all your petty vitriol the only thing you’ve accomplished is saying “I don’t like thing.” The staggering lack of awareness from this thread is bordering on comical. It’s like toddlers throwing down their toys because they don’t like the color of their power rangers.

    Its been over a year, you made your statement. Grow up and let better issues get attention. Or be laughably predictable and throw a tantrum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrahmsAmadeus View Post
    The sad part is that I actually agree that the new sounds are terrible but you’ve all come across as such petulant whiners that I find it nearly impossible to sympathize with you. From all your petty vitriol the only thing you’ve accomplished is saying “I don’t like thing.” The staggering lack of awareness from this thread is bordering on comical. It’s like toddlers throwing down their toys because they don’t like the color of their power rangers.

    Its been over a year, you made your statement. Grow up and let better issues get attention. Or be laughably predictable and throw a tantrum.
    I find it hilarious when it's the devs who were encouraging feedback on this on PLL and then we have people like you that have nothing to contribute but insults throwing. Irony is real huh?
    Look, if you don't like what you read don't click onto this post. Nobody is forcing you to do this. We are keeping this alive just to let the devs know that hey we still need some changes here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrahmsAmadeus View Post
    The sad part is that I actually agree that the new sounds are terrible but you’ve all come across as such petulant whiners that I find it nearly impossible to sympathize with you. From all your petty vitriol the only thing you’ve accomplished is saying “I don’t like thing.” The staggering lack of awareness from this thread is bordering on comical. It’s like toddlers throwing down their toys because they don’t like the color of their power rangers.

    Its been over a year, you made your statement. Grow up and let better issues get attention. Or be laughably predictable and throw a tantrum.
    That means guiving up, i we do that for better issues what will happen ? Nothing will change. Maybe there's some whiners in here (idk i don't read every message), but not everyone is like that. Some ppl just try to guive feedback instead of doing nothing.
    Plenty of players here didn't just say " i don't like thing " : gnb sounds like blunt object, has lost every metallic sounds (like moving a gun around), the sound are muffled overall etc ... So it's not just " i don't like thing ", some ppl tried to explain why they didnt like the new sounds.
    But yeah maybe you right and we should all say noghting more, ignore gnb until something good happens (if it happens) and play something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrahmsAmadeus View Post
    The sad part is that I actually agree that the new sounds are terrible but you’ve all come across as such petulant whiners that I find it nearly impossible to sympathize with you. From all your petty vitriol the only thing you’ve accomplished is saying “I don’t like thing.” The staggering lack of awareness from this thread is bordering on comical. It’s like toddlers throwing down their toys because they don’t like the color of their power rangers.

    Its been over a year, you made your statement. Grow up and let better issues get attention. Or be laughably predictable and throw a tantrum.
    So GNB can experience the same kind of """"betterment"""" that DRK players did going in to 5.0? Nah.
    The more the devs hear "we aren't satisfied and want change" is the only way things can improve, and unlike DRK this is a straight to the point, single issue that can easily be remedied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrahmsAmadeus View Post
    Stop necroing your dead thread. It’s been over a year now. You’ve beaten a dead horse so long even the flies have moved on.
    It never left the first page of tanks. It's not a necro.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrahmsAmadeus View Post
    The sad part is that I actually agree that the new sounds are terrible but you’ve all come across as such petulant whiners that I find it nearly impossible to sympathize with you. From all your petty vitriol the only thing you’ve accomplished is saying “I don’t like thing.” The staggering lack of awareness from this thread is bordering on comical. It’s like toddlers throwing down their toys because they don’t like the color of their power rangers.

    Its been over a year, you made your statement. Grow up and let better issues get attention. Or be laughably predictable and throw a tantrum.
    I think with the replies you've gotten, you see better now that we actually want to see a change. Your comments don't do anything here, I would like to preserve the job's future so that when we see next expansion's "job showcase" that our skills aren't using a mallet made of cardboard. You can carry on with your opinion of the forum community but there's plenty of others who aren't even on the forums who feel this way too and want the change. They too have "given up" on the concept and think that being complacent with what we have is easier than just committing a little effort towards making a change or statement. Belittle what you want, but there's nothing wrong with being determined and passionate about wanting to make something as good as it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valic View Post
    It never left the first page of tanks. It's not a necro.
    It never left the front page because you kept necro-ing it whenever it died. Pathetically self-promoting your own thread does not make it relevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valic View Post
    I think with the replies you've gotten, you see better now that we actually want to see a change. Your comments don't do anything here, I would like to preserve the job's future so that when we see next expansion's "job showcase" that our skills aren't using a mallet made of cardboard. You can carry on with your opinion of the forum community but there's plenty of others who aren't even on the forums who feel this way too and want the change. They too have "given up" on the concept and think that being complacent with what we have is easier than just committing a little effort towards making a change or statement. Belittle what you want, but there's nothing wrong with being determined and passionate about wanting to make something as good as it should be.
    Don't project your own ill-informed opinion onto me. You belittle yourself every time you exercise such a profound lack of self-awareness that it genuinely invalidates any potential argument you could have had. A cursory look through your post history shows you trying to tell other people to stop their threads for 'being too old.' You're a hypocrite, and a pitiable one at that. You've conflated spiteful arrogance with virtuousness and tried to condescend to me with no remote shred of integrity.

    The mere fact that someone who agrees with the opinion about the class's sounds but has no respect for any of it's proponents should tell you something. But it won't - because the type of person to perpetuate a dead thread no one cares about for a year has no experience with introspection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrahmsAmadeus View Post
    It never left the front page because you kept necro-ing it whenever it died. Pathetically self-promoting your own thread does not make it relevant.



    Don't project your own ill-informed opinion onto me. You belittle yourself every time you exercise such a profound lack of self-awareness that it genuinely invalidates any potential argument you could have had. A cursory look through your post history shows you trying to tell other people to stop their threads for 'being too old.' You're a hypocrite, and a pitiable one at that. You've conflated spiteful arrogance with virtuousness and tried to condescend to me with no remote shred of integrity.

    The mere fact that someone who agrees with the opinion about the class's sounds but has no respect for any of it's proponents should tell you something. But it won't - because the type of person to perpetuate a dead thread no one cares about for a year has no experience with introspection.

    Wrong on both accounts. This thread's come back more times from other players during times I'm not even subbed or paying attention lmao.

    Also my own "ill-formed opinion", lol nice troll. I repeat, you provide nothing here. I think if you check again in those threads, it's a particular user that actually does necro pages old threads that were made in 2015. I've no need to condescend you, just simply informed you that you have nothing to gain by being just as spiteful here against players who only have hope for change.. Which, I'll say this again because you missed it I guess... You have so far and continue to provide nothing here. Not really sure what you're getting at about its proponents either, I have plenty I enjoy about the job and have made my own ideas about what could result in its future too. You're really trying too hard here, and for what? I genuinely don't know what you hope to gain here lmao.

    I suggest you move along here from this point if you don't actually have anything that's relative to this thread. Imagine making your account just to post what you have so far and not actually provide anything relative. Stop grasping for straws.

    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    I've been avoiding making this reply since I really didn't want to get involved in this thread, but anyways here we go ...

    The statements that I keep seeing in this thread that say thing like the new sound fx sound like a "cardboard mallet" and "don't sound like a sword" are incredibly inaccurate.
    How many making these comments have in real life held an actual sword and swung it around and struck different things with it?
    Guess what, swords don't make that *sching* sound in the real world, that is all just stylized fluff from movies and shows. A blade, or really any thin length of metal, only makes such a sound when drawn or scraped against metal or similar material, causing the metal of the blade to vibrate from the light friction and making that distinct sound. When you swing a sword through the air, it just makes a general "whoosh" sound, similar to when you swing pretty much anything else.
    Additionally, when a sword strikes something it tends to just make a "thud" sound like most other things hitting something. The only time a sword really makes a different sound is when it is striking a very hard material like say metal armor, however in the same scenario a blunt object will still make a similar impact sound on this material. Hitting a metal breastplate with a sword sounds virtually the same as hitting it with a metal bat.

    While I fully support the right to ask the devs for changes to the sound fx on Gunbreaker, it's hard to take such requests seriously when one of the main arguments being used, that the sounds are inaccurate, is itself inaccurate. Perhaps instead say something like you prefer the more stylized sound fx that there were previously because they convey the idea of a gunblade better, or something like that. Trying to attack the factuality of something when you don't know the facts yourself is not a good strategy.

    I'll comment here since people are being hostile for some reason. I'm personally of the opinion that "accuracy was the problem" was never actually a good excuse. Gunblades IRL were never a thing how they were described in this VIDEO GAME. Aside from that, this game never really goes for accuracy but rather references previous games and and cultures we know. The main issue is the original sound effects were fine and the complaint was "there is no boom in the explosions". Now to an extent, I agree with this.... since Fated Circle basically had nothing to it despite being all explosions. Some of the skills needed improvement on that aspect alone but overall they weren't really bad enough to warrant changing the entirety of the skills. I think the slashing was fine and a fine tuning of the explosions would've been the most appropriate. Basing off how paladin, warrior, and dark knight sound too... You can kinda picture that a gunblade falls into a category that isn't quite as sharp and holy sounding as a one handed paladin's sword, but not quite the momentum or heavy swings of a warrior's axe, or the magical and distorted effects of a dark knight's two handed sword. The most logical step would be somewhere in the middle, sounding almost as swift as a paladin's blade but having the uniqueness come from the explosion sound effects of being a gunblade.

    People could argue that's realism but I'm only comparing between what we have as of now for tanks with similar weapons. Some compared it to Samurai or Nin's SFX too which..... NIN kinda has the "dual blade" effect going for it and equally as sharp sounding. Samurai was interesting as it incorporates some more delayed effects like you would see in corny old fashion samurai movies. The simple fact remains that a blade shouldn't sound so... blunted. Not when media and common games relate it to sharp and swift.

    As for not hearing it... This is one of my main page bookmarks.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitpostXIV...1_gnb_be_like/

    Meme aside, it's very distinguishable and is missing the funner elements of the weapon. A prime example being the third skill having this "click" and sound effect as if something was being compounded like a cartridge explosion or something. This was very key as it let's you know when your combo is done and provides you with a cartridge. This also fell in line perfectly with how other jobs have a similar "effect" like Samurai's delayed "schliiiing" sounds and Ninja's dual slicing daggers. Now we're just missing that element that made the weapon sound unique and we're left with something less than what it was.
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    Last edited by Valic; 10-18-2020 at 04:13 AM.