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    xDaemianx's Avatar
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    Daemian Basthion
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    That is, "FOR THE LORE" people??

    In reality, almost every AST I witnessed in game (other than me) were just rng-fishing for balance (and maybe commenting on back luck when it never happen).

    SE taken note of that and made all cards effects as the old-balance. End of rng. Oh well, still that melee/ranged thing but not an issue with premade.
    Couldn't be further from the truth. Are you talking about ASTs who came as such job because the party told them they wanted Balance? Are you talking about non-regular ASTs who just thought ASTs are only benefitial because they could spread Balance? I main AST since it came out and I can tell you, a true (TRUE) AST could do with whatever card they drew. Either for the benefit of the next card or even turn that TP upside down. Seriously, stop making temporary or "one-night stand" ASTs be the spokespeaker here just because that's what they used to do. In all fairness, even a spread SPEAR or ARROW could add up to a heavy percentage of damage (not as much as Balance, probably) if used apropriately. It's basically more damage in terms of SkSp/SpSp or in Crits.
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    Galbsadi Nailo
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    Halicarnassus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xDaemianx View Post
    Couldn't be further from the truth. Are you talking about ASTs who came as such job because the party told them they wanted Balance? Are you talking about non-regular ASTs who just thought ASTs are only benefitial because they could spread Balance? I main AST since it came out and I can tell you, a true (TRUE) AST could do with whatever card they drew. Either for the benefit of the next card or even turn that TP upside down. Seriously, stop making temporary or "one-night stand" ASTs be the spokespeaker here just because that's what they used to do. In all fairness, even a spread SPEAR or ARROW could add up to a heavy percentage of damage (not as much as Balance, probably) if used apropriately. It's basically more damage in terms of SkSp/SpSp or in Crits.
    I mean, pretty much. I'm not even an AST main, and all the cards had a place.

    Everybody knows about the Balance card, which was nice, sure.

    However, the Spear was almost as good all the time, and even better in certain situations (BRD got extra procs, SCH got more shield procs in full party content, etc.).

    The cast-speed one (I forget the name offhand, sorry) was basically a single-target Bloodlust (for anybody who played WoW), and the spread version was basically a bloodlust every minute or so on demand.

    The Bole, while certainly less valuable in a competent group...was FANTASTIC for those tanks that didn't know how to use cooldowns (like 75% of them in leveling roulette).

    Ewer was fantastic if you ran into mana problems (like lots of people dying to stupid).

    They ALL had a place...and again, this is coming from someone who isn't even an AST main, and never has been.
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    Averax's Avatar
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by galbsadi View Post
    I mean, pretty much. I'm not even an AST main, and all the cards had a place.

    Everybody knows about the Balance card, which was nice, sure.

    However, the Spear was almost as good all the time, and even better in certain situations (BRD got extra procs, SCH got more shield procs in full party content, etc.).

    The cast-speed one (I forget the name offhand, sorry) was basically a single-target Bloodlust (for anybody who played WoW), and the spread version was basically a bloodlust every minute or so on demand.

    The Bole, while certainly less valuable in a competent group...was FANTASTIC for those tanks that didn't know how to use cooldowns (like 75% of them in leveling roulette).

    Ewer was fantastic if you ran into mana problems (like lots of people dying to stupid).

    They ALL had a place...and again, this is coming from someone who isn't even an AST main, and never has been.
    I do miss aoe bole during high pressure situations. Took the heat off.

    And melee dps used to hate the arrow when TP was a thing, but now without TP they'd probably love it.
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    ParadoxHealer's Avatar
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    Embyrr Wynter
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    Diabolos
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by xDaemianx View Post
    Couldn't be further from the truth. Are you talking about ASTs who came as such job because the party told them they wanted Balance? Are you talking about non-regular ASTs who just thought ASTs are only benefitial because they could spread Balance? I main AST since it came out and I can tell you, a true (TRUE) AST could do with whatever card they drew. Either for the benefit of the next card or even turn that TP upside down. Seriously, stop making temporary or "one-night stand" ASTs be the spokespeaker here just because that's what they used to do. In all fairness, even a spread SPEAR or ARROW could add up to a heavy percentage of damage (not as much as Balance, probably) if used apropriately. It's basically more damage in terms of SkSp/SpSp or in Crits.
    Thank you! THIS SO MANY TIMES!
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    Yuuki Kaname
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by xDaemianx View Post
    Couldn't be further from the truth. Are you talking about ASTs who came as such job because the party told them they wanted Balance? Are you talking about non-regular ASTs who just thought ASTs are only benefitial because they could spread Balance? I main AST since it came out and I can tell you, a true (TRUE) AST could do with whatever card they drew. Either for the benefit of the next card or even turn that TP upside down. Seriously, stop making temporary or "one-night stand" ASTs be the spokespeaker here just because that's what they used to do. In all fairness, even a spread SPEAR or ARROW could add up to a heavy percentage of damage (not as much as Balance, probably) if used apropriately. It's basically more damage in terms of SkSp/SpSp or in Crits.
    "one-night stand" AST has to be the best description of those players that say "YoU OnLy fIsHeD FoR BaLaNcE AnYwAy", I don't want to generalize but I do wonder how many of those AST were asked to play that class only for a static purpose and become a Balance dispenser.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KanameYuuki View Post
    I don't want to generalize but I do wonder how many of those AST were asked to play that class only for a static purpose and become a Balance dispenser.
    A lot. A lot.

    The stronger AST gets, the more intense the pressure to switch gets.
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