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  1. #1
    Player
    Jestigeress's Avatar
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    Wesley Redclaw
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    You either fished for balance or you were a bad player, period. It still amazes me how people that have apparently played AST since HW are still under the illusion of choice when it comes to the cards. The cards as they are right now are Objectively a buff, just because you play inefficiently doesn't make the card changes bad. Every. Single. Card. you draw gets use and contributes way more than their previous iterations. People love fooling themselves because "Muh diversity". You either drew balance or you did not, the rest of the cards were inferior in comparison.
    Your one sided logic, which in reality is nothing more then being Close Minded... Is a problem and an issue why there is confusion between what the desires of the player base are. In all reality for the Stormblood incarnation of Ast was you played what you were dealt. For me that meant I was holding Ewer or Bole in spread burned through Arrow and Sometimes Crit and even balance via royal road So when I drew them again they had a buff of and because of royal road i got back to them faster. the rest of the cards weren't inferior its just you didn't have the understanding to use them. which as Mik said is part of the problem with that mindset and because of that mindset its players like you that put us in this situation we are in.
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    Last edited by Jestigeress; 07-31-2019 at 01:16 PM. Reason: forgot a word :P

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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    You either fished for balance or you were a bad player, period.
    If you were throwing away Spears and Arrows instead of using them when they came out then you were the bad player, because those were still damage increases. I like the new system, but let's not pretend that it isn't a much shallower version of what we had before.

    If your mindset in Stormblood when you already had Royal Road prepared was if you drew a Spear or Arrow and either Redrew it for something like Spire or Minor Arcana'd it, you cheated your group out of damage.
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    Last edited by Elamys; 07-31-2019 at 01:18 PM.

    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    Gula's Avatar
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    You are delusional, astrologian is pure garbage, I loved AST when it was introduced, all cards had something unique, what is it now? A goldfish Job. That gives all balances, that function all the same.
    Someone having a positive opinion isn't delusion, it's just an opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Ryskim's Avatar
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    Sigmund Galt
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    Tonberry
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Someone having a positive opinion isn't delusion, it's just an opinion.
    It's not an opinion, it's a statement. And yeah, totally delusional.

    AST is absolute garbage right now, along with SMN. They oversimplified everything so it's easier for the devs to balance, but that's all about it. Easier for them, bad for the players.

    Never ever an oversimplification in a MMORPG has been a good idea. They did something similar in SWToR. That's when the game officially died.
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryskim View Post
    It's not an opinion, it's a statement. And yeah, totally delusional.

    AST is absolute garbage right now, along with SMN. They oversimplified everything so it's easier for the devs to balance, but that's all about it. Easier for them, bad for the players.

    Never ever an oversimplification in a MMORPG has been a good idea. They did something similar in SWToR. That's when the game officially died.
    Opinions =/= facts. Compared side by side to other healers, can they still do the same things and complete all levels of content? The answer to the latter is yes, the answer to the former is merely true or false. If a healer cannot heal, then it's garbage. Do they have considerably lower potency for skills compared to the other healers? I understand identity and lore for some actions, DRK being gutted was a real heavy hit to the connecting story. But it still werk.

    And don't take my post as mocking please, I really would like to know and ask that someone please respond minus personal gripes and seething snark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    [QUOTE=Brarry;5110733]These are improvements? Time extenders gone. Card variety gone. CU useless. Nocturnal sect lame.
    They should just remove the class so they can focus on making a 3rd healer. Or instead of cards and a star globe the ast should just hold a roulette wheel spinner and all the results are the same but different colors to give the illusion of variety.
    I won't be deceived by these "improvements"
    What a shame to bring a beautiful and fun class so low.
    They won't put effort to actually improve the class? If the class isn't fun and rewarding I won't be playing it.[/QUOTE

    BALANCE NOT META How hard is that to get? nevermind rational thought has never been a forte of the forum crowd. I'm out to threads where the healers are actually kinda happy that all of us are sitting in a all three of us are viable position and realise we can only go up from where we're at instead of pissing and moaning that ones not at the head of the pack.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    To be fair, the whole card debacle is mostly about the job identity and its utility, not so much its performance (even when it kinda failed at that too).
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    Ahrijlaken's Avatar
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    Ahri Eija
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 76
    Shield din't get nerf.

    100x250%= 250

    200x125% =250
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    Brarry's Avatar
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    Loafberry Dumpling
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Looks like ast numbers are still down. RIP.
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    KanameYuuki's Avatar
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    Yuuki Kaname
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    At the very least, looking at the JP forums it seems they are still just or even more dissatisfied than us, so maybe there is still hope? Hopefully we get some answers and reasons this 7th.
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