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    Amon Kujaku
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Directly above it, healing potency increased from 100 to 200.
    You multiply those numbers together.
    Mind not being so crytpic? They still nerfed it even if they did up the healing potency. Shields had already been nerfed, so why should they get nerfed again when the healing potency was shit to start with? Just up the healing potency, no need to reduce shields. Otherwise, you might as well just heal after instead of use shields before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    Mind not being so crytpic? They still nerfed it even if they did up the healing potency. Shields had already been nerfed, so why should they get nerfed again when the healing potency was shit to start with? Just up the healing potency, no need to reduce shields. Otherwise, you might as well just heal after instead of use shields before?

    Aspected Helios:
    ・Healing potency has been increased from 100 to 200.
    ・Barrier's damage nullification reduced from 250% to 125%.

    Multiple the number above by the number below to find your shield value.
    That's breaking even. 250 potency shield for a 250 potency shield, but now with extra healing.

    Celestial Opposition:
    ・Healing potency has been increased from 100 to 200.
    ・Barrier's damage nullification reduced from 150% to 125%.

    That's a buff from a 150 effective potency shield, to a 250 potency shield.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 07-30-2019 at 07:39 PM.

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    Llethander Drae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Aspected Helios:
    ・Healing potency has been increased from 100 to 200.
    ・Barrier's damage nullification reduced from 250% to 125%.

    Multiple the number above by the number below to find your shield value.
    That's breaking even. 250 potency shield for a 250 potency shield, but now with extra healing.
    I would like to point out the fact that the base healing potency of Aspected Helios was increased while the barrier amount when in Nocturnal Sect was reduced. That means this is a straight up buff to Diurnal Sect with a lateral shift for Nocturnal Sect meaning that Diurnal Sect has the advantage here.

    They also removed the +15% potency increase that used to come with simply being in Nocturnal Sect. Diurnal Sect only provided a +10% bonus to potency, which has also been removed.

    That means that Nocturnal ALSO received an across-the-board direct nerf of 5% to every healing spell compared to Diurnal Sect.
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    Last edited by Llethander; 07-31-2019 at 07:49 PM.

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    Jenny Davar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    Mind not being so crytpic? They still nerfed it even if they did up the healing potency. Shields had already been nerfed, so why should they get nerfed again when the healing potency was shit to start with? Just up the healing potency, no need to reduce shields. Otherwise, you might as well just heal after instead of use shields before?
    Aspected Helios:
    Before: shield = 250% * 100 = 250
    After: shield = 125% * 200 = 250
    Shield is exactly the same.

    Celestial opposition:
    Before: shield = 100 * 150% = 150
    After: shield = 200 * 125% = 250
    Shield has been buffed

    Celestial intersection:
    Before: shield = 200% * 150 = 300
    After: shield = 150% * 200 = 300
    Shield is the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    Mind not being so crytpic? They still nerfed it even if they did up the healing potency. Shields had already been nerfed, so why should they get nerfed again when the healing potency was shit to start with? Just up the healing potency, no need to reduce shields. Otherwise, you might as well just heal after instead of use shields before?
    125% of 200 is the same as 250% of 100

    so yeah shields are exactly the same as before
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    Reverendo Seyer
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    All they did is reverse the stats you will heal better but the shield mitigation is less. Before u front heal was less bits stronger shield for damg mitigation. I hope this make sense. Not the best in English.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seyer View Post
    All they did is reverse the stats you will heal better but the shield mitigation is less. Before u front heal was less bits stronger shield for damg mitigation. I hope this make sense. Not the best in English.
    This is incorrect, please read the posts above you.
    None of the shields are weaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seyer View Post
    All they did is reverse the stats you will heal better but the shield mitigation is less. Before u front heal was less bits stronger shield for damg mitigation. I hope this make sense. Not the best in English.

    If before you cured for 10k the shield would have been 250% of that, meaning 25k shield.

    Now if you cure with the same gearset that 10k is now 20k, and the shield is 125% of that....so 25k shield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    If before you cured for 10k the shield would have been 250% of that, meaning 25k shield.

    Now if you cure with the same gearset that 10k is now 20k, and the shield is 125% of that....so 25k shield.
    You're forgetting the Ridorana Lighthouse already proved a majority of the playerbase cant math.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post
    You're forgetting the Ridorana Lighthouse already proved a majority of the playerbase cant math.

    Or that's precisely why I did the math for them? Afterall, there were like 5 posts already showing the formula.
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