Square Enix Team Hates NIN Players.

[CrashofZenki]

At this current rate, I have a suggestion for you developers.
Either Remove/rework TA, raise our Damage Potencies + revert Bunshin to how it was meant to be before pre-release.

Or just delete the job from the game. At its current place it seems like you guys dont care about the job anyways.

Sincerely a NIN who is 100% tired and frustrated at the "Dev team".

Oh and if people post "But NIN has TA its deserved". Kiss me where I am highest, when I pick up popotos.

[TcomJ]

At this current rate, I have a suggestion for you developers.
Either Remove/rework TA, raise our Damage Potencies + revert Bunshin to how it was meant to be before pre-release.

Or just delete the job from the game. At its current place it seems like you guys dont care about the job anyways.

Sincerely a NIN who is 100% tired and frustrated Dev team.

Oh and if people post "But NIN has TA its deserved". Kiss me where I am highest, when I pick up popotos.

Clearly hate Bard too. Not even Soul Gauge sound change or Apex Arrow rescaling. We don't even get FR back with instant cast unlike SAM...

[Chimiko]

Atleast you guys have a spot in the raids. SAM dosen't. There is no point in taking a SAM or a NIN to a raid group at this moment.

[Starflake]

Atleast you guys have a spot in the raids. SAM dosen't. There is no point in taking a SAM or a NIN to a raid group at this moment.

Samurai is not in a bad spot. Still not as good as Monk though. Imagine giving monk small buffs still while already being on top of the melee spot.

[Chimiko]

Samurai is not in a bad spot. Still not as good as Monk though. Imagine giving monk small buffs still while already being on top of the melee spot.

SAM was already behind MNK in term of rDPS. They are def ahead of us now. So yes, sam is in a bad spot right now, just like NIN.

[TcomJ]

Atleast you guys have a spot in the raids. SAM dosen't. There is no point in taking a SAM or a NIN to a raid group at this moment.

Bard has a spot for this expansion? Hahahahahaha

It's all about damage number now so you guys have no need for bard that's for certain. And if you really need it, there's a DNC.

[Starflake]

Bard has a spot for this expansion? Hahahahahaha

It's all about damage number now so you guys have no need for bard that's for certain. And if you really need it, there's a DNC.

Dancer is lower total rdps than bard

[TcomJ]

Dancer is lower total rdps than bard

then they will pick MCH. Our buffs are not worth shit for our damage output compare to MCH anyway.

If they want buffs and support, they can just go for DNC and get everyone else the viable buffs that happen constantly and have the long ass uptime.

Hence, bye bye bard.

[HyoMinPark]

then they will pick MCH. Our buffs are not worth shit for our damage output compare to MCH anyway.

If they want buffs and support, they can just go for DNC and get everyone else the viable buffs that happen constantly and have the long ass uptime.

Hence, bye bye bard.

For Innocence EX, BRD's rDPS was only 50~70 behind MCH... And it was actually quite represented in speedkills for both.

FFLogs ranks via rDPS now. Not pDPS.


SAM getting Hagakure back as Sen management (which may or may not directly affect their damage due to it only returning 5 Kenki per Sen versus the 20 it gave in SB) is a little bit different than reincorporating Foe's as a new off-global. They would have to likely have to actively redesign the skill, where as Hagakure is just less Kenki return and on a shorter recast - it functions virtually the same as it did in SB. And while I think they could have addressed the gauge sound change, it's not like BRD is actively hurting right now in terms of what it does and what it can bring.

We'll see how BRD sits when Eden clears and speedkills start happening, but podcasts were already listing it as the better prog choice of the physical ranged. The physical ranged are one of the few roles that are relatively close to one another in rDPS balance, with DNC being only ~300 or so behind MCH, and BRD being basically neck-n-neck with it. So all you're doing is doomsaying and complaining with very little numerical basis right now (and even high-jacking a thread about NIN to do so).

[Drayos]

then they will pick MCH. Our buffs are not worth shit for our damage output compare to MCH anyway.

If they want buffs and support, they can just go for DNC and get everyone else the viable buffs that happen constantly and have the long ass uptime.

Hence, bye bye bard.

FFLogs are broken, but i did a post on DPS Differences.

Im pretty sure Bards about 400-500 DPS behind MCH, with 400 RDPS through its buffs, so no, lol MCH and bard are actually equal RDPS Standpoint almost :P this is Pure hyperbole