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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Get over yourself. If Sacred Soil is indeed "worth it", then it will still see use. SCHs will not suddenly start burning their Aetherflow on CD on Energy Drain just because deeps, because that's not really how it was ever used anyway.

    Energy Drain was either your reward for optimising your healing (and thus a stack dump), or it was a risk you took and if your gamble failed, you paid for it pretty heavily (by having to resort to your less efficient GCD heals). Being able to take risks is vital for a compelling gameplay system. It also gives Dissipation more of a reason to continue existing, because you sure as hell weren't consistently spending your stacks before Aetherflow came off cooldown before, let alone having 6 to get rid of.
    its not a risk to use a dps button over a healing button every healer is doing that constantly. Its not a risk to use energydrain. having to use minimal healing aetherflow is terrible design. You have 5 aetherflow spells and half of them being spent on energy drain is the reality. Its not a reward its the norm. and if you were using excog and Sacred soil properly you already weren't capping on aetherflow w/ dissipate still having a place for your spread adlo's.

    Sch can afford to dump nearly all of their aetherflow on energydrain in trials now because damage can be healed up with a fairy/seraph OGCD + your other healer's OGCD (or lily casts). You only rely on healing aetherflow when you're solo healing or carrying the weight. Energy Drain is only a gamble in a game that has more damage in their encounters.
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    Well, SCH is still boring to play but at least it got energy drain back, so there's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    Well, SCH is still boring to play
    That's what the bed mount is for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticm View Post
    That's what the bed mount is for.
    Petition to make mounts usable in dungeons so I can heal the tank and then go back to sleep
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    Gaethan Tessula
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    The good news: SCH has an aetherflow dump again, AST gets to take off the body cast.

    The bad news: This is probably all we're getting, or at least the extent of the type of changes we'll see. Not scrapping Art of War, while also giving it 10 extra potency, does not inspire faith.

    Still not enough to convince me to level AST again. Even IF WHM drops back to third wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaethan_Tessula View Post
    The bad news: This is probably all we're getting, or at least the extent of the type of changes we'll see. Not scrapping Art of War, while also giving it 10 extra potency, does not inspire faith.
    Replacing Art of War will probably take till 6.0. SE doesn't really do major overhauls until we get a new expac. (I mean... look how long Heavensward Bard and Stormblood White Mage took to get real changes...)

    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Where are people seeing SCH getting ED back? It's not on the patch notes... >_>
    It's there, but there's a section for new actions.
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    Where are people seeing SCH getting ED back? It's not on the patch notes... >_>

    NM, as pointed out below I missed the section of the Notes. lol
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    Last edited by Numenor1379; 07-30-2019 at 03:41 PM.

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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Where are people seeing SCH getting ED back? It's not on the patch notes... >_>
    Look at "NEW ACTIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Where are people seeing SCH getting ED back? It's not on the patch notes... >_>
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    Ah ok, cool. I'm hopeful these changes will at least blunt the worst that SCH and AST have had... dunno if they will, but maybe. I am glad they didn't mess with WHM.
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