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  1. #101
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    Dynia's Avatar
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    Yuin Yasha
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelVilliers View Post
    SCH was already perfect to me, now with Energy Drain returns is amazing.
    op mana battery skill is back hell yes, now lets give even more boosts to SCH and astro that will kick WHM from raids once again ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    A lot of people, who probably never played WHM or just recently started thinks WHM is broken and OP, when in reality the other jobs are just lacking and WHM hasn't changed.
    agree 100%
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    Last edited by Dynia; 07-30-2019 at 07:34 PM.

  2. #102
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    MOZZYSTAR's Avatar
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    Amon Kujaku
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 8
    Quote Originally Posted by LariaKirin View Post
    Do you realise that changing the potency of Aspected Helios from 100 to 200 while keeping barrier at 250% would be of a stronger crit Adlo Deploy with no cooldown?
    Do you realise that Aspected Helios shield is now stronger than non-crit Succor?

    Yes, when you double something's potency, you decrease the shields.

    Cards are not shit, they are better than fish-for-balance. Maybe the removal of the slot machine RNG will bring more players to AST. I am considering it.

    I did realise, but what I don't understand is why they had to decrease the shields when the healing potency was the only problem. I get "balance," but AST was always on the low end.



    And the cards are shit. There were already tons of AST before 5.0, so it's not like it needed to cater to more of playerbase who didn't already appreciate its design and intended use. Enjoy playing it, with one little buff per person at a time in a party of 8.~ Don't worry, DNC, BRD, and potentially other classes got the AoE buffs down pat. They'll carry your weight as a synergist.
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    I won't be coming back to FFXIV's forums. The forum vibe is way too venomous and brings out the worst in me. I don't like who I am on the forums, so it's best to distance myself.

  3. #103
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    MOZZYSTAR's Avatar
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    Amon Kujaku
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 8
    I'm sorry for being so unpleasant. I'm just so frustrated with the healer business it's unreal. This fustration has been going on an entire month it's burning me out. I should just stop looking at the healer stuff. There's really no point anymore.
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    I won't be coming back to FFXIV's forums. The forum vibe is way too venomous and brings out the worst in me. I don't like who I am on the forums, so it's best to distance myself.

  4. #104
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    I did realise, but what I don't understand is why they had to decrease the shields when the healing potency was the only problem. I get "balance," but AST was always on the low end.
    They didn't decrease the shields. They've kept them the same, for Aspected Helios at least, and buffed them for Celestial Opposition.
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  5. #105
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    LariaKirin's Avatar
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    Laria Kirin
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    I did realise, but what I don't understand is why they had to decrease the shields when the healing potency was the only problem. I get "balance," but AST was always on the low end.
    Aspected Helios
    Old: 100 Potency, 250% Shield = 250 potency shield
    New: 200 Potency, 125% Shield = 250 potency shield

    CO
    Old: 100 Potency, 150% Shield = 150 potency shield
    New: 200 Potency, 125% Shield = 250 potency shield

    CI
    Old: 150 Potency, 250% Shield = 375 potency shield
    New: 200 Potency, 200% Shield = 400 potency shield
    CI is now a 30 sec cooldown crit Adlo Deploy.
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    Last edited by LariaKirin; 07-30-2019 at 07:44 PM.

  6. #106
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    Sloprano's Avatar
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    Quilia Labro
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    I'm sorry for being so unpleasant. I'm just so frustrated with the healer business it's unreal. This fustration has been going on an entire month it's burning me out. I should just stop looking at the healer stuff. There's really no point anymore.
    Been feeling quite blue about these sweeping changes that only seemed to have the singular goal of removing the things I found to be great about my favorite job and we have heard barely any word from SE for the reasoning behind it.

    Please consider taking a break to let the mind calm a bit. Why not try the new treasure maps or a completely different game, heard Outer Wilds is great. We've made some noise here and are hoping to get our issues adressed in the coming Live Letter. If not, we'll be back here.
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  7. #107
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Kujata
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sloprano View Post
    Been feeling quite blue about these sweeping changes that only seemed to have the singular goal of removing the things I found to be great about my favorite job and we have heard barely any word from SE for the reasoning behind it.

    Please consider taking a break to let the mind calm a bit. Why not try the new treasure maps or a completely different game, heard Outer Wilds is great. We've made some noise here and are hoping to get our issues adressed in the coming Live Letter. If not, we'll be back here.
    Ah, but you forget. We were asked just a few days ago *not* to ask job/role related questions.
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    "Then what is magic for?" Prince Lir demanded wildly. "What use is wizardry if it cannot save a unicorn?"
    Schmendrick did not turn his head. With a touch of sad mockery in his voice, he said, "That's what heroes are for."
    -- Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn

  8. #108
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    Jenny Davar
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    Kujata
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    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    Ah, but you forget. We were asked just a few days ago *not* to ask job/role related questions.
    We were asked not to ask job questions until the patch was released. It’s out. I’ve already started asking, as have others. Please, join us.
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  9. #109
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    Laria Kirin
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiryuu View Post
    Ah, but you forget. We were asked just a few days ago *not* to ask job/role related questions.
    Stop misrepresenting. They asked to not ask job/role related questions before seeing the changes in 5.05. Because the pointless "Will we get Energy Drain?", "Is AST getting buffed?" questions would simply be post bloat.
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  10. #110
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    Um, so? Making it meta again was never the point. It was to balance them with the other healers.
    You shouldn't want any job buffed into meta.
    Healers are, as of right now, pretty nicely balanced.
    What I meant was that it's not even close in terms of dps. The upgrade is what? At best 1/3 of the rdps contribution plus a bit on top because less healing will be needed. We're talking what? 200 maybe 300 dps more? Nothing has really changed.
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