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  1. #1
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    Sloprano's Avatar
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    Quilia Labro
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    I'm sorry for being so unpleasant. I'm just so frustrated with the healer business it's unreal. This fustration has been going on an entire month it's burning me out. I should just stop looking at the healer stuff. There's really no point anymore.
    Been feeling quite blue about these sweeping changes that only seemed to have the singular goal of removing the things I found to be great about my favorite job and we have heard barely any word from SE for the reasoning behind it.

    Please consider taking a break to let the mind calm a bit. Why not try the new treasure maps or a completely different game, heard Outer Wilds is great. We've made some noise here and are hoping to get our issues adressed in the coming Live Letter. If not, we'll be back here.
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Kujata
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sloprano View Post
    Been feeling quite blue about these sweeping changes that only seemed to have the singular goal of removing the things I found to be great about my favorite job and we have heard barely any word from SE for the reasoning behind it.

    Please consider taking a break to let the mind calm a bit. Why not try the new treasure maps or a completely different game, heard Outer Wilds is great. We've made some noise here and are hoping to get our issues adressed in the coming Live Letter. If not, we'll be back here.
    Ah, but you forget. We were asked just a few days ago *not* to ask job/role related questions.
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    "Then what is magic for?" Prince Lir demanded wildly. "What use is wizardry if it cannot save a unicorn?"
    Schmendrick did not turn his head. With a touch of sad mockery in his voice, he said, "That's what heroes are for."
    -- Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn

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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR View Post
    It doesn't look like they changed it back to arrow = speed, etc. Celestial opposition still isn't a stun. We haven't gotten back some of our strategic skills.
    What made you think they were going to do any of these things in the first place?

    Changing the cards back is a huge change. If it happens, it won't happen until the next expansion.

    It's unlikely we will get Time Dilation or the buff extension on Celestial back because they worry it will make the damage increase too strong.

    Instead of asking for things to just go back to the way they were, which was changed for a reason, ask for things within the current design to change.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I'm really glad with the changes, Celestial Opposition even seems a bit broken now.

    However I wonder, why havn't they touched CI? 250 healing potency + 5s 10% dmg mitigation in melee range, on a 90s CD, it's weak, even more so now that CO has become a god tier ogcd.
    I wasn't expecting insanes changes but, maybe just a potency buff back to 100-150 potency. I mean, unless used during transition and whatnot, we're never going to hold the bubble so it's effectively a 50potency hot. And that's weak!

    120s to raid buff is much welcome, altough I'm not sure it's gonna be enough to compensate the weakness of MaleficIV + CombustIII but it's a step in the right direction.
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    Last edited by Sylvain; 07-30-2019 at 07:26 PM.

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    Character
    Naychan Le'mew
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I’m super happy to see Ed back just wish atherflow mastery came with it. Love the healing changes to Astro now I won’t shudder when I see them in group with me. Very pleased they didn’t nerf whm, I know everybody was expecting it but it didn’t happen. Yet they are still complaining. ED is not going to bring sch up to your dps level it’s literally just there for dumps it’s not worth weaving unless we are sitting on stacks.

    Now I will admit I don’t know what QOL changes whm needs cause I have not read their threads. The reason being is they insist on jumping into sch and Astro threads telling us to suck it up and deal with it & how it’s white mages turn to shine. Also that we deserve to see what it felt like to be ignored. Seriously some of you (not all) are just toxic (you know who you are). Even though they didn’t touch you, it does not change the fact that your still on top for heals and pDPS. I hope you all get the QOL changes your looking for if for no other reason then you will leave the rest of us alone.
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    Almostward's Avatar
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    Baidar Torgud
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Well scholar got energy drain back so good for them.

    Astro got.......nothing back.... I wish I never mained that class
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    Nathanial's Avatar
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    Esmond Leo
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    Zalera
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    Arcanist Lv 73
    I might not be doing the math right but isnt astro shields still much more potent then scholars almost 100% of the time? What even is scholar shields? Why don't we just turn astro into the perminate shield class and make scholars straight heals.
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanial View Post
    I might not be doing the math right but isnt astro shields still much more potent then scholars almost 100% of the time? What even is scholar shields? Why don't we just turn astro into the perminate shield class and make scholars straight heals.
    On the surface, it does kinda look like that.
    Adlo: 375 potency shield
    Succor: 225 AoE

    A. Benefic: 500
    A. Helios: 250 AoE

    Plus AST has Celestial Opposition for another 250 potency AoE shield.
    (Intersection would be used in isolation in Diurnal so can't really be added to the list)

    However, Scholar can do a lot more with its Shields via Tactics, spreading that Adlo to all party members, converting them into pure healing, plus it can garrantee a double shield for Adlo making it a 750 potency shield.
    Then there's Excog, which is a sort of pseudo shield with a whopping 800 potency.
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    Adore Mi
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    I'm very happy with the changes. Now, SE please just leave healers alone for awhile.

    WHM was left awesome. SCH improvements, especially ED back! AST fixes to really improve some of the crap CDs they had.
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    Jenny Davar
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    Kujata
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    I'm very happy with the changes. Now, SE please just leave healers alone for awhile.

    WHM was left awesome. SCH improvements, especially ED back! AST fixes to really improve some of the crap CDs they had.
    These changes helped. But downtime is still a complete drag and it remains to be seen whether the AST changes will put them to the right level.
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