Instant Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast for SAM!

[RidiculouslyComplicated]

Not directly no but if you think about them not having movement restrictions, it sort of is a damage buff since they can now move in mechanics but keep at full dps skills.

Im happy for them though, it needed it , but not as bad as ninja needed, well everything LOL

Tsubame having a cast time was never a real issue at high level play, you could already slide cancel it pretty hard. Nin's buff is pretty insulting considering basic potency calculation could have told them that this wouldn't be close to solving any issues. A real shame.

[Ryaz]

I don't know about that! Samurai can still work for the harder content and with their DPS that it could help trim down savage bosses a bit faster, what Samurai needs is to be paired up with other DPS that can fill in other roles that give Buffs and Debuffs to even everything out. I would never suggest pairing up a Samurai with other DPS that have no Buff/Debuff Options which can lead to problems during the fight, Samurai is basically the heavy hitter that you can count on when in a pinch.

So I don't think Samurai is going to be pushed to the side, but Ninja on the other hand is probably going to struggle from what people have been saying about it.

That's the issue- SAM pDPS isn't much higher than DRG or MNK right now. Add in buffs to Monk and rDPS and there's really no point to bringing a Samurai.

[Kaliesto]

Maybe they expected Ninja's attack speed rotations to be taken into account along with Trick Attack debuff? They should make Skill Speed a bit more of a priority for Ninja besides Dexterity to make up what they do in damage.

Ninja is supposed be fast lore-wise, and in general.

Maybe have their Ninki Gauge tied to letting their dagger abilities to able to attack twice (similar to Duality) that would take up small amounts of the Ninki Gauge, it would be alternative to their other two abilities that would take up most of it (like that Frog thing as one example), maybe have it take like 10 points with each dagger ability hit.

[Maneesha]

I already said this in this other thread but nin is very "trick"y to buff.
Because one hand, they sorta need a buff but on the other hand, if they buff it too much to where the dmg is decent....Say...higher than bards, some people will lock their slot to nin and then once again!

We just have the melee meta repeat again since HW.

Though drg isn't that needed as it use to be since bards and mch don't need them but they still bring Lit, DS and (until we see how much samurai and mnk dps go up from the changes) does equal dps to mnk and just under samurai.

Ninja's dps wasn't the deciding factor why they were "mandatory", nor was trick attack. It was, imo, the combination of all the tools/support they offered.
They had(still have) trick attack, had enmity generation for tanks and reduction for another party member and also brought a slashing debuff (in case the group didn't have a warrior). For me this is what made them mandatory in every raid group, now that slashing and enmity type skills are gone, he is left with only trick attack and his personal dps. Maybe he needs a raid buff skill, similar to monk's brotherhood,but with different effect, or maybe he is fine with only offering trick attack as "utility" skill. I don't know, overall i am glad that his spot isn't locked anymore by default because he offers so much "utility".

On his dps i won't comment, maybe he needs a buff, maybe not, i don't know. Since there are only 4 dps slots in a raid and 9(?) dps jobs, it's normal that some will be left out of the "meta",whatever the reason may be.

[Nora_of_Mira]

From 5.05 patch note
https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...edf1edb73ed77e

Tsubame-gaeshi Cast time has been made instant.
Kaeshi: Higanbana Cast time has been made instant.
Kaeshi: Goken Cast time has been made instant.
Kaeshi: Setsugekka Cast time has been made instant.

HAGAKURE IS BACK TOO!!!!AT LV.68!!!!!!!!

OMG!!!! My wish came true!

♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOO MUCH SQUARE ENIX DEVELOPER TEAM ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡

with all these instant-casts are you still going to call it a caster class? :^)

[Fynlar]

Red Mage got what they wanted most: reduced MP costs. Now our cost ratio is basically back to StormBlood's level.

I never had any issue with RDM's MP, personally. It only got bad when having to raise a lot, and that happens to anyone with a raise spell; it's just that RDM can get there more easily due to Dualcast substituting for Swiftcast.

The biggest issue I have with RDM currently is that Reprise was, and still is, useless enough to not warrant a slot on my bars. Please just get rid of this skill and replace it with literally anything else and it will probably be an improvement.

[Averax]

RIP Red mage and summoner

They only got buffed though?

[cactuarzzzz]

Can I call it Instant Caster Class? I'm in a realy good mood right now! ^_^
Feel faster. I could just Tsubame immediately after Midare and follow with shinten/Kyuten before gcd came up while I'm moving around. It feel like 2 shinten after Midare but 1 of them hit harder!

Now the only thing left is to find a new bed and put it down on the flower field at Il Mheg and I'll feel like the happiest person in the first.

[Rivxkobe]

We did it OP.

[Zeonx]

I'm more happy about getting Hagakure back.

I wouldn't be it doesn't do the same stuff as before it was nerfed severely my cousin said.

cousin said he removed 3 skills off his bar because they've became useless.

meditate gone due to charging in 1 spot for 5 charges when you constantly on the move not worth it and cost you dps
shoha gone not worth it because low damage 10-13k and waiting for level 5 meditate for that amount is laughable.
he was excited for hagakure return but then noticed its crap and he then removed it.