RDM and the Utility Tax

[Namir]

So the main problem here is that RDM and SMN have utility in raise that is situational, but they pay full time for it with lower DPS.

I think a way to remedy this would be to make raise a caster role action or leave it as is, doesn’t matter, but make it apply a “-20% damage dealt for 1 minute” debuff to the caster, call it “aetheric imbalance” or “aetheric overexertion”. Make it a stackable debuff in case that chain raises happen. I believe this would solve the problem, this way RDM and SMN (and BLM if they make it a caster role ability) would pay for their situational utility only if they use it and not full time like they pay for it now. It would also fit lorewise since casters are not healers, they are not accustomed to using aether to raise their comrades.

[LunarEmerald]

So the main problem here is that RDM and SMN have utility in raise that is situational, but they pay full time for it with lower DPS.

I think a way to remedy this would be to make raise a caster role action or leave it as is, doesn’t matter, but make it apply a “-20% damage dealt for 1 minute” debuff to the caster, call it “aetheric imbalance” or “aetheric overexertion”. Make it a stackable debuff in case that chain raises happen. I believe this would solve the problem, this way RDM and SMN (and BLM if they make it a caster role ability) would pay for their situational utility only if they use it and not full time like they pay for it now. It would also fit lorewise since casters are not healers, they are not accustomed to using aether to raise their comrades.

If there was a damage debuff on using raise then nobody would use it. lol Even if you do technically lose dps by wasting a gcd, it's not quite the same thing.

RDM was gimped not so much in damage but most the new stuff it got is just pretty much nothing that gave it a boost it needed to keep up with other DPS did in those 10 levels

Scortch is nice

But Aoe trait that should have already been a thing not something learned at 78

Manafications terrible damage boost for 110 second CD

Displacement band aid

And reprise

They put more thought into the Aoe at lower levels than all the stuff 72-78

I think they didn't want to mess with the job too much. New additions can ruin a job. See Heavensward Bard. I'm actually very happy Red Mage plays the same as it did in StormBlood. I don't want them to start bloating it with additional timers or gauges like other jobs. Simplicity is one of the best things about Red Mage and it would be easy to screw it up.

A job doesn't need to radically change each expansion. If it's not broke then don't fix it.

[Duskane]

I think they didn't want to mess with the job too much. New additions can ruin a job. See Heavensward Bard. I'm actually very happy Red Mage plays the same as it did in StormBlood. I don't want them to start bloating it with additional timers or gauges like other jobs. Simplicity is one of the best things about Red Mage and it would be easy to screw it up.

A job doesn't need to radically change each expansion. If it's not broke then don't fix it.

its hard to believe this when Dragoon,Black mage and Paladin are just perfect with everything they got
QoL to there game play not changing it

[Zyneste]

So the main problem here is that RDM and SMN have utility in raise that is situational, but they pay full time for it with lower DPS.

I think a way to remedy this would be to make raise a caster role action or leave it as is, doesn’t matter, but make it apply a “-20% damage dealt for 1 minute” debuff to the caster, call it “aetheric imbalance” or “aetheric overexertion”. Make it a stackable debuff in case that chain raises happen. I believe this would solve the problem, this way RDM and SMN (and BLM if they make it a caster role ability) would pay for their situational utility only if they use it and not full time like they pay for it now. It would also fit lorewise since casters are not healers, they are not accustomed to using aether to raise their comrades.

We aren't Healers. We shouldn't be able to spam raise. Just put it on the OGCD with a 2min+ timer, preferably with charges. Let healers have the GCD spammable raise.

If a DPS class is going to support in any function, it should not cost them personal DPS. The removal of Mage's Ballad into Refresh was a clear example of improvement.