Last night, ALL Roulettes except Trials had "Healer In Need"!

[Sloprano]

How about putting all the moves back, but altering the potencies such that the damage capabilities stay the same as they are now? AST aside, I think a lot of SCHa would be happy with this. I'm actually disappointed that they buffed Art of War. More damage is not what we need.

I would be very happy indeed. That is the kind of rebalancing I'd very much like to see happen. Broil III and Ruin II could be restored to ARR Ruin values. Biolysis also reduced and the leftover potencies shared over several dots we could spread like with Bane. Art of War replaced by Miasma 2 which I think orignally did something like 10 potency on hit and 20 for each tick for 15s. Our healing spells/abilities could take a good hit aswell or removed and the Fairies restored to old variant. Our entire healing output could be reduced with no problem in return for the ACN tools to instead reduce incoming damage in various ways.

[Dynia]

NOW can we admit that there is a healer shortage?

Multiple articles have been written about it. The issue is why...

It is not due to a lack of popularity for FFXIV as zones are quite active! And it is not because of 2 new jobs because not everybody who heals would suddenly do GNB or DNC. That is not realistic.


I believe there are 3 healer-specific issues:

1) AST 5.0 changes have made it far too similar to WHM. So if you don't enjoy one, it is likely that there are now 2 jobs that you will have no interest in playing.

2) SCH 5.0 changes have resulted in many of our hardcore healers getting bored and trying a different job in search of more complexity. Simplifying SCH and removing options is the opposite of what a down-and-dirty SCH player would want.

3) WHM 5.0 seems fine at max level. Rather, it is feeling the awkwardness that comes from the new 10,000 MP limit at lower levels. It is a terrible strategy to have a job feel horrible for the first 50-60 levels. I used to be able to throw out heals freely as a WHM in all levels of content but those days are over! Level 50 and under means no Thin Air and no Assize. Dungeons are fine but any Trials or Raid Content involve lots of doing nothing as healing on this pure healer will mean that I go out-of-mana quite quickly. I want to be a fountain of love and free healing. But 5.0 means I am stingy as hell as a few consecutive heals and 1 rez means certain death as I will have no mana left. The other healer is usually a WHM as well and they often run out of mana within the first minute. Of course, I am not a skilled WHM and I would have less issues once I git gud.


Regardless, this issue is much deeper than my skills and lack thereof. The issue is that SE has made Healer Roles exceptionally unattractive in an effort to streamline and there is a ripple effect. Ripple #1 is that I just went back to SMN and happily get to "heal" via Physick and rezzing while freely spending seemingly endless mana to cast spells. Now there is 1 less Healer queuing up for content.

My question to everybody: Is there a realistic solution that SE could roll out by the next patch?

dude you know there is new tank class and every1 want to try or play it right ?

[glamazon]

cant they add something to our role instead of dps? Why can't we be doing crowd control? Or give astrologian crowd control, white mage dps, and scholar buffs or maybe astro buffs and scholar crowd control. Let the fairy be able to charm or bind and the other heal. people want complexity and differentiation not simplicity.

[Billythepancake]

cant they add something to our role instead of dps? Why can't we be doing crowd control? Or give astrologian crowd control, white mage dps, and scholar buffs or maybe astro buffs and scholar crowd control. Let the fairy be able to charm or bind and the other heal. people want complexity and differentiation not simplicity.

People are asking for dps options because dps best suits the current game design and philosophy of the game. If other solutions were just as viable I'd be just as okay with those.

[GrimGale]

People are asking for dps options because dps best suits the current game design and philosophy of the game. If other solutions were just as viable I'd be just as okay with those.

WHM contributes with high personal dps.
AST contributes with high raid dps as buffs.
SCH contributes with high raid dps as debuffs on enemies.

There, all different and all contribute potentially equally.

[Billythepancake]

WHM contributes with high personal dps.
AST contributes with high raid dps as buffs.
SCH contributes with high raid dps as debuffs on enemies.

There, all different and all contribute potentially equally.

Sure, but they also want to feel engaged while doing it. Spamming 1 button to get those results isnt interesting.

[GrimGale]

Sure, but they also want to feel engaged while doing it. Spamming 1 button to get those results isnt interesting.

Ofc, I personally would love to have a complex debuffing mechanic with SCH. Some spells to look for weaknesses in enemies and then reveal them to the party during burst phases.

[Hatstand]

WHM contributes with high personal dps.
AST contributes with high raid dps as buffs.
SCH contributes with high raid dps as debuffs on enemies.

There, all different and all contribute potentially equally.

So long as they’re all:

A) offensive in nature (don’t need more defence if no one is dying)
B) on a short enough cooldown that you could fill your downtime with them
C) decently complex (no more 1 button spam)
D) somehow enhanced through decision making (a CD which makes your dps/buffs/debuffs stronger if applied in the next 10 seconds, a attack/buff/debuff that shares a resource with heals (lilies, Aetherflow, or fairy gauge) etc)

[LalaRu]

When the wave of people leveling the new DNC and GNB jobs will calm down, everything will settle as before. Right today you can see the Tank in need starting to appear more frequently.

[Hydrium]

Sure, but they also want to feel engaged while doing it. Spamming 1 button to get those results isnt interesting.

Speak for yourself.

Just adding more buttons to push isn't engaging, just adds more plates I have to spin. SCH needs a hook, thankfully we have this nifty fairy gauge, it's too bad it's by far the most underdevloped class mechanic next to DRK.