Alliance Raid Roulette Needs adjustments

[RMA209]

I play all the 24 man roulette levels. Most of them I did in there prime too. Now with a roulette its not balanced at all. If I end up in The Orbonne Monastery its not the same level of challenge as the the first 2 Crystal Tower levels/dungeons. Plus some people don't want a challenge so they don't unlock the later ones. Not a crime but I feel it stops some dungeons from popping up more. Same reason I keep getting snowcloak as a 50/60/70 roulette. I do believe that labyrinth of the ancients need an item level sync of 80. Then bring Syrcus Tower to item level 100 or 110. Even The Royal City could use a little help too. I feel the reward is not balanced. Some people even back out if they don't get The Crystal Tower.

[Elkanah]

Crystal tower is the fastest run available, outside syrcus tower. You can dps the crap out of the boss and ignore 99% of mechanics outside the last boss. There's no point in adjusting a 24 man raid when it's old content. Unless they add further rewards like MSQ cutscene simulator for triple xp and 5x's tomestones (which isn't gonna happen), it's not worthwhile for the devs to go back and adjust old content from ages past.

[RMA209]

Crystal tower is the fastest run available, outside syrcus tower. You can dps the crap out of the boss and ignore 99% of mechanics outside the last boss.

You miss the point. Having too much dps is the problem. That's why its not an equal challenge to the other levels in its roulette. Hence too much exp for those 2 next to the others. How is it old stuff if many run it once a day as a roulette? I have just got out of a run where people complained it was too slow and started talking about dick. What if we had a lower ilv as I suggest? Then we would have the original mechanics to do. On one run of lab I had someone shouting about how the war players should use cd's and take the big hit on King Behemoth to make it faster. How is that not ok?

[Elkanah]

You miss the point. Having too much dps is the problem. That's why its not an equal challenge to the other levels in its roulette. Hence too much exp for those 2 next to the others. How is it old stuff if many run it once a day as a roulette? I have just got out of a run where people complained it was too slow and started talking about dick. What if we had a lower ilv as I suggest? Then we would have the original mechanics to do. On one run of lab I had someone shouting about how the war players should use cd's and take the big hit on King Behemoth to make it faster. How is that not ok?

Sadly you're barking up the wrong tree if you think squeenix will adjust older content to challenge users lol. If it's not shb, then they're gonna ignore it for the most part. It's fine as it is. I can understand the complaints, but squeenix isn't gonna touch it anymore since it's no longer relevant content and shb. Simple as that.

[AnimaAnimus]

After it's 2 patch time in the sun, 24 mans are meant to be burned through to get experience, not to be challenging content. If it wasn't a quick way to get exp, not nearly the same amount of ppl would still run it as there is nothing else that is really worthwhile coming from it outside of glamour and story if its your literal first run through.

It would be great if they went back and redid some of the old content of gave us extreme versions of the 24 mans, but if they haven't yet I doubt they ever will.

[RMA209]

After it's 2 patch time in the sun, 24 mans are meant to be burned through to get experience, not to be challenging content. If it wasn't a quick way to get exp, not nearly the same amount of ppl would still run it as there is nothing else that is really worthwhile coming from it outside of glamour and story if its your literal first run through.

um.... What about The Orbonne Monastery? Many people back out the second its there roulette. Last time I was there we all died on every boss. I got it as a roulette a few weeks back and people kept jumping ship all the way through.

[AnimaAnimus]

um.... What about The Orbonne Monastery? Many people back out the second its there roulette. Last time I was there we all died on every boss. I got it as a roulette a few weeks back and people kept jumping ship all the way through.

As stated it wont be ez if you pull World of Darkness, the orbonne monastery, or Dun Scaith. Why I don't understand them not putting Labyrinth of the Ancients on a lower item level.

These are all easy peasy for anyone who has run them. Last time I was in all of these we burned through it so fast many mechanics were skipped, it all depends on who is in the party, how many new ppl there are, the skill level of them, etc. But anyone who has been doing it since it was fresh can power through it practically with their eyes closed.

But the fact remains, its had its day in the sun and is now outdated by many many physical levels and many many ilvls which in the land of ffxiv is a death sentence. It's in the roulette to help get new people through it while giving the people doing it again an exp bonus. And if you are new it still will be challenging, regardless on whether or not come mechanics are skipped. That's why you saw so many ppl die. But for others who have run it 250 times, we would never step foot in there again without a little bonus incentive, and that's where being able to mostly cheese it comes in.

If it still took as long as it did back at release it wouldn't be worth it since there are faster ways to gain exp which is also why you saw ppl leave, they may not know how easy it is now or they may have had a pt similar to yours and judged it not worth the time. So pick your poison. Have things loose their difficulty or just not be able to complete the content since it would be nearly impossible to find anyone to do it. The only games that can keep old content difficult are games that still put significant rewards behind them. That's why ffxi was able to keep things like dynamis and einherjar challenging for years, people always ran them because the reward was worth the time and the difficulty.

[RMA209]

Old content? The lore is used in Shadowbringers and they suggest you go play it. Also its in a roulette many play daily. With New game plus more people might go check out old content. That feature not even out yet. If they can change the Main Scenario roulette they can change this. I don't think it needs to be the min item level but a lower one would be better then it is now.

[Mavrias]

Old content? The lore is used in Shadowbringers and they suggest you go play it. Also its in a roulette many play daily. With New game plus more people might go check out old content. That feature not even out yet. If they can change the Main Scenario roulette they can change this. I don't think it needs to be the min item level but a lower one would be better then it is now.

Titan lore is also used in Shadowbringers. Doesnt make it not old content.

[gaymer77]

Old content? The lore is used in Shadowbringers and they suggest you go play it. Also its in a roulette many play daily. With New game plus more people might go check out old content. That feature not even out yet. If they can change the Main Scenario roulette they can change this. I don't think it needs to be the min item level but a lower one would be better then it is now.

To be honest, its part of the daily roulette because if it weren't new players/characters would never see it pop up for them to complete for MSL or blue+ quests. Honestly why aren't you complaining about Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium not being challenging enough? Those are run by even max level characters because the tomes per hour are the highest in the game yet the raids themselves aren't very challenging.