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    I’m on board with this actually.

    Seems to me that distinct skills should have distinct names, while upgrades to II, III, IV etc. should instead of upgrades to distinct skills.
    Stone I upgrades to Stone II, etc.

    The fact that Fire, Fire II, Fire III and Fire IV all function completely differently… bugs me I guess.
    Would make much more sense if Fire II was Fira, Fire III was Firaga, and Fire IV was Firaja.
    It would allow for upgrades to these skills, so that we could get a superior Fira II to make our AoE rotation a bit smoother, instead of having a defunct Fire II.
    And Fire could upgrade to Fire II to have a shorter cast time or something.
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    Archwizard Drake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    I’m on board with this actually.

    Seems to me that distinct skills should have distinct names, while upgrades to II, III, IV etc. should instead of upgrades to distinct skills.
    Stone I upgrades to Stone II, etc.

    The fact that Fire, Fire II, Fire III and Fire IV all function completely differently… bugs me I guess.
    Would make much more sense if Fire II was Fira, Fire III was Firaga, and Fire IV was Firaja.
    It would allow for upgrades to these skills, so that we could get a superior Fira II to make our AoE rotation a bit smoother, instead of having a defunct Fire II.
    And Fire could upgrade to Fire II to have a shorter cast time or something.
    Then what about Thunder?

    Thunder 1/3 and 2/4 both have upgrades and functionally separate iterations. If you argue Fire 2 should be separated as Fira, then Thunder 2 should be Thundara -- but if Stone still upgrades to Stone 2/3/4, then Thunder III and IV would be Thunder II and Thundara II.

    For maximum confusion, between 45 and 64 this means your options are Thunder II and Thundara.

    Same point could be made about SMN's Ruin line too, since 1/3 and 2/4 are similarly just upgrades. And seriously, good luck with the tongue-twister of Veraerora, I think I have an aneurysm just looking at it.
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    Last edited by Archwizard; 07-29-2019 at 11:25 PM.

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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    Then what about Thunder?

    Thunder 1/3 and 2/4 both have upgrades and functionally separate iterations. If you argue Fire 2 should be separated as Fira, then Thunder 2 should be Thundara -- but if Stone still upgrades to Stone 2/3/4, then Thunder III and IV would be Thunder II and Thundara II.

    For maximum confusion, between 45 and 64 this means your options are Thunder II and Thundara.

    Same point could be made about SMN's Ruin line too, since 1/3 and 2/4 are similarly just upgrades. And seriously, good luck with the tongue-twister of Veraerora, I think I have an aneurysm just looking at it.
    Absolutely.
    Thunder for single targets.
    Thundara for AoE.

    Blizzard for single targets.
    Blizzara for AoE.
    Blizzaga for deeps and full UI transition.
    Blizzaja for top deeps and generating Umbral hearts.

    Fire for single targets.
    Fira for AoE.
    Firaga for deeps and full AF transition.
    Firaja for top deeps and spending Umbral hearts.

    It's entirely consistent.
    No confusion whatsoever.

    Could even call Thundercloud Procs Thundaga/Thundaja.

    RDM should never have got Verthunder II and Veraero II anyway, they should have been Verwater and Verblizzard.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 07-29-2019 at 11:52 PM.