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    Terric Aubert
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    Dark Knight Lv 90

    Please make Gunbreaker’s normal combo turn into the Gnashing Fang combo

    It’s extremely unwieldy on a controller to switch to a whole different combo every 20 seconds. I’ve tried the double-tap, the L2+face buttons, the R2+L2, I’ve even made crossbar-switching macros - all viable options, none of them comfortable. No other class has given me this problem. The Continuation combo is simply too whack-a-mole for its frequency.

    They’ve done such a good job of reducing button bloat for RDM with skills turning into more advanced skills when needed, so I don’t get why your normal combo can’t morph into Gnashing Fang somehow. Perhaps Continuation can start it as well or something? But the way it is now, it’s simply not comfortable in any configuration. I took the job to 80 and tried everything. I really want to enjoy this class but this is a serious detriment.
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    Use this set up. It works and is easy on the hands.
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    I don't understand why they did it the way they did. Continuation is such an unnecessary button.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I don't understand why they did it the way they did. Continuation is such an unnecessary button.
    Because this is one of the few MMOs where (casual, but also the majority of) players regularly mistake button count for toolkit depth regardless of the design (in)efficiency involved.
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    I figured out... something on controller.

    R2 + Circle = First attack
    R2+ X = Second attack
    R2 + Square = Third attack

    R2+Triangle is continuation but I have the combo buttons for continuation mapped to R2+ Right, down, then left. That's a lot of buttons to do something that could've been simplified.
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    My second combo is on the same Square, Cross, Circle as my first combo but the opposite trigger. Your idea isn't bad though (combo morph activated by continuation).

    I actually wish GNB felt more busy with an attack speed buff it can maintain permanently like ninja and samurai, to further separate its style from the other tanks. At the moment I don't feel like it has enough to avoid feeling like just another FF XIV tank job. Continuation, a DoT, a HoT regen are pretty much the only points of differentiation. I just looked at the job guide and noticed the PvP version of GNB has a move called 'Draw and Junction' which both buffs self and debuffs the target. Some kind of interpretation of that for PvE that isn't too overpowered would have been cool.
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    It definitely doesn't need to be changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertcoins View Post
    Use this set up. It works and is easy on the hands.
    That’s not good because you can’t move while using it.
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    I have my combo on a second hotbar in the same place as the normal combo then it’s just a matter of keeping track of when gnashing fang is ready which isn’t so bad cause it’s basically just every second normal combo. It’s admittedly very clunky but in a way I guess it captures that feeling of a gunblade requiring good timing. Only thing that’s giving me trouble is having to switch back to my normal hotbar to use oGCD attacks, but once I get continuation I won’t really have to do that anymore (still 61).
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    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I don't understand why they did it the way they did. Continuation is such an unnecessary button.
    Agreed. If Continuation was to be repurposed into a Gnashing Fang starter button, then your basic combo would morph into Gnashing Fang, and follow-ups could simply be done by pressing that particular combo button again (so twice for every step in the combo). Problem solved, button bloat removed, number of combo steps remains the same, no need for additional hotbars.
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