Please make Gunbreaker’s normal combo turn into the Gnashing Fang combo

[sexythaumaturge]

It’s extremely unwieldy on a controller to switch to a whole different combo every 20 seconds. I’ve tried the double-tap, the L2+face buttons, the R2+L2, I’ve even made crossbar-switching macros - all viable options, none of them comfortable. No other class has given me this problem. The Continuation combo is simply too whack-a-mole for its frequency.

They’ve done such a good job of reducing button bloat for RDM with skills turning into more advanced skills when needed, so I don’t get why your normal combo can’t morph into Gnashing Fang somehow. Perhaps Continuation can start it as well or something? But the way it is now, it’s simply not comfortable in any configuration. I took the job to 80 and tried everything. I really want to enjoy this class but this is a serious detriment.

[Insertcoins]

Use this set up. It works and is easy on the hands.

[Fawkes]

I don't understand why they did it the way they did. Continuation is such an unnecessary button.

[Shurrikhan]

I don't understand why they did it the way they did. Continuation is such an unnecessary button.

Because this is one of the few MMOs where (casual, but also the majority of) players regularly mistake button count for toolkit depth regardless of the design (in)efficiency involved.

[Stanelis]

Because this is one of the few MMOs where (casual, but also the majority of) players regularly mistake button count for toolkit depth regardless of the design (in)efficiency involved.

Welcome to all mmorpg since 2010.

[ForteNightshade]

Because this is one of the few MMOs where (casual, but also the majority of) players regularly mistake button count for toolkit depth regardless of the design (in)efficiency involved.

Or people prefer pressing several buttons in lieu of spamming the same one over and over again. Just because you prefer something doesn't make it inherently better. In the case of Gunbreaker, you would no longer be able to weave combos which is why Gnashing Fang doesn't replace the baseline combo.

[Reimmi]

Because this is one of the few MMOs where (casual, but also the majority of) players regularly mistake button count for toolkit depth regardless of the design (in)efficiency involved.

At least it isn't on the far other side of the spectrum like wow is
arcane mage is literally a 2 button spec, so damn boring

[Makeda]

Because this is one of the few MMOs where (casual, but also the majority of) players regularly mistake button count for toolkit depth regardless of the design (in)efficiency involved.

While I agree with this comment, I also don't want to see changes to the design of Gunbreaker and actually like that it has so much 'button spam'.

That said... I think there are easily characters in OVerwatch that have maybe 3 or 4 'buttons' total that are more complex than ANYTHING this game has to offer... because the combat engine it hitscan action based.

And since this game is tab-target 'mostly stand there' based... complexity generally is stuck coming from rotation-confusion...

[Shurrikhan]

While I agree with this comment, I also don't want to see changes to the design of Gunbreaker and actually like that it has so much 'button spam'.

That said... I think there are easily characters in OVerwatch that have maybe 3 or 4 'buttons' total that are more complex than ANYTHING this game has to offer... because the combat engine it hitscan action based.

And since this game is tab-target 'mostly stand there' based... complexity generally is stuck coming from rotation-confusion...

In the end it has less to do with us being tab-target as our being unable to be anything but tab-target. Our poll rate isn't enough to allow for "action"-like play; we can't readily handle constant interception or prioritization during soft-targeting (whereby you hit the selected target if range, or any other applicable target in your facing direction if not); we can't handle auto-optimization for AoEs (where firing off an AoE at a group of enemies will center on/from the enemy from which the most enemies can be hit); we can't handle animation-matched AoEs (whereby if it looks like an AoE, it's an AoE... to the degree it looks like an AoE); etc., etc. Heck, at present we run out of circles and into explosions for greatest safety...

And agreed, I like GNB's button spam, though it's not quite why I stay awake on it and PLD and fall asleep on WAR and especially DRK atm. (This is my Healer/DEX alt. My other is my Tank/STR alt. Not sure which I'll put casters on yet.)

[Mesarthim]

I figured out... something on controller.

R2 + Circle = First attack
R2+ X = Second attack
R2 + Square = Third attack

R2+Triangle is continuation but I have the combo buttons for continuation mapped to R2+ Right, down, then left. That's a lot of buttons to do something that could've been simplified.