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  1. #1
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Vercure is definitely water due to the blue aura it has while casting.

    Vercure


    Veraero


    Fleche

    ^Look at the ice fragments and little ice crystals effects. It does physical unaspected damage but the animation is that of Ice (probably so it won't be affected by Embolden tbh), but like Aeolian Edge is physical but clearly is a Wind Animation. Same with Requiescat. Deals unaspected but it's a friggin lightning bolt.

    I stanx by the notion that Vercure=Verwater, and Fleche=Verblizzard. They probably named them as such 1) because RDM still needed a Cure so they lumped Cure+Verwater into the same spell to make Vercure, and they didn't want the odd Verblizzard around so they made it an oGCD and gave it a Dueling/Fencing name for flavor. The fact that we learn 4 elemental spells in the first 15 levels of RDM and don't get any obvious Ice/Water spells all the way up to 80 is extra proof that Vercure/Fleche are Water/Ice respectively. The elements are already in existence as those 2 skills, no need to add Verwater/Verblizzard.
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    Last edited by Jonnycbad; 08-06-2019 at 05:05 AM.

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    Archwizard Drake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Vercure is definitely water due to the blue aura it has while casting.

    Vercure
    Except that Water Magic animations employed by enemies use a shade of aquamarine blue closer to that of our oGCD skills like Fleche.
    The blue used by Vercure is shared by ASTs with their star-based healing.

    Further, I've yet to see a solid counter-argument for why Fleche is supposedly an ice spell that deals no ice damage. "Not being affected by Embolden" hardly matters if the alternative is for it to deal 1% less damage to be magic damage, as an oGCD it's not like we wouldn't be able to squeeze it into an Embolden window. The alternative examples you mention of similar attacks are also used by Physical-based jobs who benefit from it being non-magic damage.
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    Last edited by Archwizard; 08-06-2019 at 07:03 AM.

  3. 08-06-2019 05:55 AM
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    kirby200's Avatar
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    Please SE, enough said
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Should have made Verthunder II, Verblizzard and VerAero II, Verwater
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    Patronas Charm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Should have made Verthunder II, Verblizzard and VerAero II, Verwater
    Yeah, that was honestly what I was hoping for the most in SHb. I held my breath too long too for Verwater and Verblizzard lol.

    However, on a positive note, I was glad we did get some AoE's, because Scatter spam was a bit dull, but SE had a big missed opportunity with its AoE rotation. Again, I just would like a reason behind why not, why be afraid to add Verwater / Verblizzard? Come on! I mean, Y`Shtola's Water of the Seven looks so awesome, something along those lines would have been so neat to see! Is it really that bad to give RDM, that uses both sides of Black / White, a water and ice spell?
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    Chemist Healer Concept http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/370920-Chemist-Healer-Concept
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatronasCharm View Post
    I mean, Y`Shtola's Water of the Seven looks so awesome, something along those lines would have been so neat to see!
    To my knowledge, no such spell exists in her arsenal. In fact outside of Dissidia (where she has a damaging version of Fluid Aura), the only water-aspected skill she has is Spiritual Ray, which uses all three CNJ elements.

    EDIT: Ah nvm, just learned she uses all six elements in Trusts.
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    Last edited by Archwizard; 08-07-2019 at 01:10 PM.

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    Kaleth Orebiter
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by PatronasCharm View Post
    /snip

    Y`Shtola's Water of the Seven looks so awesome, something along those lines would have been so neat to see! Is it really that bad to give RDM, that uses both sides of Black / White, a water and ice spell?
    Yeah, I'm kinda jealous no job have that kind of spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    To my knowledge, no such spell exists in her arsenal. In fact outside of Dissidia (where she has a damaging version of Fluid Aura), the only water-aspected skill she has is Spiritual Ray, which uses all three CNJ elements.

    EDIT: Ah nvm, just learned she uses all six elements in Trusts.
    Yeah I always use her in my Trust party’s as she’s so awesome! But that move there looks so incredible, heck it could work as Verflood
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    Dancer Lv 90
    So I just unlocked this job and everyone says it's super easy but I just don't get it. Can someone please explain to me like I'm an idiot, because I am one, how this job works at level 50?

    Do you just spam Jolt to fish for Dualcast procs into Veraero/Verthunder? Because that's the only way I've managed to keep the meter balance but it feels wrong somehow.
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    Last edited by Ayuhra; 08-08-2019 at 11:31 AM.

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