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    Aethyn's Avatar
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    Emerick Lionheart
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    One more thread to complain about the soul-crushing placard spamming

    Seriously, I wish I had never gotten it into my head that I wanted a house, but SE put gameplay behind it, so I wanted in. Also I like decorating stuff and I want a garden to put stuff in.

    I'm currently into my 10th concurrent hour of camping a placard, but in total it's my 21st hour. This is insane. This is killing any enjoyment I could have in the game. Stuff like this makes me question if I should even continue playing the game at all, because I have trouble supporting developers who create such player-unfriendly systems.

    I am currently sacrificing sleep and I have sank so many hours into this one plot now that I don't want to get up and get a drink or go for a pee. There is absolutely no reason the invisible timer should ever be this long. This is how Blizzard would solve an issue, by creating a solution and then going way too far with the implementation.

    You can tell a nice story, Square, but you need to up your game with these systems because this just can't proceed like this.

    If there was a simple lottery system, I could just say I want this house and go play the game or go to sleep, and eventually I'd either get it or not. If the timer was shortened to 6-10 hours max, I'd own this plot by now. Anything, except perhaps the flippers, is better than this.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Hopefully SE will have more to tell us about their plans for housing this expansion during the next live letter.

    Until then, considering getting an apartment. There are some really amazing things people have been able to do with their apartments despite the small space and limited number of items you can use. As for the garden, you do have limited gardening available to you even in an apartment via the flower pots. They let you grow the flowers that can be displayed in vases (which you can't do with the outdoor garden plots) plus you're still able to use soils to increase quantity or have a chance at increased quality. You wouldn't be able to do intercross gardening but that's something most players give up on shortly after trying it since the garden needs daily attention to avoid having expensive seeds end up wasted.

    As for a lottery, it would never solve the long term problem of not enough available houses. Players would go from complaining about the timer to complaining about how they never get a house because they have to compete against so many other players. Better to encourage SE to address the issue of housing availability in general instead of asking them to spend their development time creating complex new systems that won't solve the core problem.
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    Linuel Polaris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post

    As for a lottery, it would never solve the long term problem of not enough available houses. Players would go from complaining about the timer to complaining about how they never get a house because they have to compete against so many other players. Better to encourage SE to address the issue of housing availability in general instead of asking them to spend their development time creating complex new systems that won't solve the core problem.
    if we take a normal lottery yes
    Lets say its like loot rolls in dutys and add an additonal 5 for every time you failed to win a house and people trying either long time would get a higher chance or people with enought money to roll for multiple houses at once (lets say we pay upfront and get money back when you lose) could boost there chances considerable you still would have to wait/grind for houses but you could at least do something with your time
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    Calista Fallon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxin_Polaris View Post
    if we take a normal lottery yes
    Lets say its like loot rolls in dutys and add an additonal 5 for every time you failed to win a house and people trying either long time would get a higher chance or people with enought money to roll for multiple houses at once (lets say we pay upfront and get money back when you lose) could boost there chances considerable you still would have to wait/grind for houses but you could at least do something with your time
    Or...they could upgrade the content delivery system as promised when you purchase the game and make housing available to everyone that wants one. (What a novel idea!) A lottery system would just create a whole new set of complaints.
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    Noctra Valstra
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    While the lottery system is a good one, I believe that making instance housing would be a better option.
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    R'ahlin Taka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxin_Polaris View Post
    if we take a normal lottery yes
    Lets say its like loot rolls in dutys and add an additonal 5 for every time you failed to win a house and people trying either long time would get a higher chance or people with enought money to roll for multiple houses at once (lets say we pay upfront and get money back when you lose) could boost there chances considerable you still would have to wait/grind for houses but you could at least do something with your time
    So in the same post, you say it's a somewhat worthwhile idea, then spoil said idea with an easy exploit to rig your chances.

    Not a good sell, I'll grant you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    So in the same post, you say it's a somewhat worthwhile idea, then spoil said idea with an easy exploit to rig your chances.

    Not a good sell, I'll grant you.
    It´s an option for people with more gil but you could always implement it in a way you can only roll for one house at a time that would still be fine (also most high pop servers don´t have more then 1-3 houses open at a time anyway)
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    Ermitanyong Lagalag
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    I believe in the next live letter, players can post a question for the devs, i lost the forum link unfortunately.
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    Ermitanyong Lagalag
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    Upcoming live letter forum link for posting questions.

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    Coven Whitewolf
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    Instead of the FC housing taking up the same spots as existing housing, exchange that function with the large apartment building. When you enter the (existing apartment type) building itself, it is its own instanced FC housing, much like the wards for Lavender Beds, Mist and Goblet. Instead of plots of land though, they are all located in the building, so each ward can have it's own instanced FC mansion or medium house, and when going in, it's just like the inside of what we are seeing today. Gardening plots can be adjusted and placed either inside, or FC housing gets it's own greenhouse with the same plot limitations.

    This allows for more FC housing, more personal housing and maintaining the apartments just as they are now for those who either don't want/need a house and want to live in the apartments (yes, there are people like this).
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