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Thread: Summoner help

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    Player
    Blindheart's Avatar
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    Sesile Kokoro
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 100

    Summoner help

    Can someone give a basic explanation of how to use all the new summoner actions? Like every action 70 and up you cannot assign to the hot bar. And I'm having a hell of a time understanding what becomes what. If I had a way to freeze bahamut and Phoenix on the screen I might be able to figure it out... But the short window to summon is just breaking me.

    It would help if each skill listed what it replaced. This was fine for Ruin as it is a numbered upgrade... But with the new/changed skills I am completely lost.

    Some of the skills I have no idea how to execute, wyrmwave, everlasting flight, scarlet flame, revelation....


    The skill descriptions are a mess now. I barely understood what I was doing in stormblood, but all the changes and having to micromanage pet I just don't understand any of it any more...
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    MaelleRiou's Avatar
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    Nolwenn Surcouf
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Wyrmwave is cast by Bahamut every time you use a spell that's on the GCD.
    Everlasting Flight is cast by Phoenix when you use Firebird Trance(only at level 80).
    Scarlet Flame is the same as Wyrmwave, but is from Phoenix.
    Revelation is the same as Enkindle Bahamut but for Phoenix and will replace that on your bar when Phoenix is summoned
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
    World
    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    you still have 4 more or less phases so to speak.

    1. Trance – where ruin3 still becomes instant and Tri-Disaster resets, usually u use your egi aussaults in this phase to generate ruin4 procs for the next phase ->
    2. Bahamut – now Bahamut is kind of sleepy & lazy since he doesn't react to ogcd/weaving anymore (but his wyvernwave still triggers on gcd tho). so that's where your ruin4 procs (generated by egi assault) comes into play. (else ruin3 or ruin2 to weave akh morn). So compared to Sb we are less mobil and less strong with amount of hits - most probably cause of..
    3. Firebird Trance - Now this is completely new and replaces buttons, but its not that complicated at all. Fountain of Fire will replace Ruin3 and Brand of Purgatory will replaces Deathflare. Since everything else would be dmg loss this phase is kinda easy to handle cause u just use FoF and BoP after each other, rins repeat - and don't forget to weave Revelations which replaces Akh Morn.
    -> 4th and last phase is filling up your rota until your cds are back on track to continue with p1 again (Trance).

    the replacement in general is kinda nice - only thing what people are wondering about is why Bahamut still has his own summon button, while Phoenix doesn't.
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    Last edited by Neela; 07-29-2019 at 11:29 PM.