Quote Originally Posted by XenabelleS View Post
Both extremes for Ravana and Bismarck need to be done in order to start the Warring Triad (source, got the quest in my log) so I think you are remembering wrong or else you entered them on someone else's WT run.
No, they are not. No MSQ or normal side quest requires EX.

Quote Originally Posted by Skyrant_Kangaroomouse View Post
Then the easy fix is to add these to the roulette.
They did. They added them to Mentor Roulette: Wanna know what happens when 7 mentors get into Ravana EX with a bonus? They all leave. People have given you suggestions so stop complaining.