
Both extremes for Ravana and Bismarck need to be done in order to start the Warring Triad (source, got the quest in my log) so I think you are remembering wrong or else you entered them on someone else's WT run.


That can't be the case. I never cleared Bismark Ex until Stormblood, but did the Triad HM back when it was current.
They are not a requirement. Source: did the warring triad questline on an alt two weeks ago.
No, they are not. No MSQ or normal side quest requires EX.
They did. They added them to Mentor Roulette: Wanna know what happens when 7 mentors get into Ravana EX with a bonus? They all leave. People have given you suggestions so stop complaining.
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