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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    And even if you manage to get in, you're just going to get 7 schmucks that didn't bother looking up guides and can't even remember the NM mechanics. Don't do EX trials with DF, trust me.
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    Hyomin Park
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    If you want to do Extremes, use the Party Finder function. Just know that older EX primals will be easier to find players for if you're doing unsynced runs. Not a lot of people do them synced, especially due to job changes that leaves jobs at level 50 or level 60 feeling incomplete or barren.

    NA and EU have done EX primals via Party Finder for years. They were doing them this way when I started over three years ago. Only JP has active Duty Finder/Raid Finder queues for current Extreme primals.


    EDIT: It occurred to me that you’re probably trying to do the Warring Triad side quest chain, which requires players to complete Bismarck EX and Ravana EX in order to progress. Ask friends you may have, linkshells, and/or people in your Free Company to help you get past these. Or put up a Party Finder for a quick and easy unsynced clear—both Ravana and Bismarck can be mowed down really easily.

    This was honestly a poor design choice on behalf of the developers, especially since NA/EU do not queue up for EX trials in the Duty Finder. That’s specifically a JP thing. However, this will not be a gate you will be met with in Stormblood or Shadowbringers. All EX content in those two expansions are separate and not required for side story progression (as is other EX content in HW).
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 07-28-2019 at 08:18 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    EDIT: It occurred to me that you’re probably trying to do the Warring Triad side quest chain, which requires players to complete Bismarck EX and Ravana EX in order to progress. Ask friends you may have, linkshells, and/or people in your Free Company to help you get past these. Or put up a Party Finder for a quick and easy unsynced clear—both Ravana and Bismarck can be mowed down really easily.

    This was honestly a poor design choice on behalf of the developers, especially since NA/EU do not queue up for EX trials in the Duty Finder. That’s specifically a JP thing. However, this will not be a gate you will be met with in Stormblood or Shadowbringers. All EX content in those two expansions are separate and not required for side story progression (as is other EX content in HW).
    I know this is a few days old, but context? I did hte Warring Triad stuff, and I hadn't cleared either the Extremes at the time, so unless you mean Triad Ex's, I'm not sure what you are talking about.
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    Xenabelle Shadowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    I know this is a few days old, but context? I did hte Warring Triad stuff, and I hadn't cleared either the Extremes at the time, so unless you mean Triad Ex's, I'm not sure what you are talking about.
    Both extremes for Ravana and Bismarck need to be done in order to start the Warring Triad (source, got the quest in my log) so I think you are remembering wrong or else you entered them on someone else's WT run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenabelleS View Post
    Both extremes for Ravana and Bismarck need to be done in order to start the Warring Triad (source, got the quest in my log) so I think you are remembering wrong or else you entered them on someone else's WT run.
    That can't be the case. I never cleared Bismark Ex until Stormblood, but did the Triad HM back when it was current.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenabelleS View Post
    Both extremes for Ravana and Bismarck need to be done in order to start the Warring Triad (source, got the quest in my log) so I think you are remembering wrong or else you entered them on someone else's WT run.
    They are not a requirement. Source: did the warring triad questline on an alt two weeks ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenabelleS View Post
    Both extremes for Ravana and Bismarck need to be done in order to start the Warring Triad (source, got the quest in my log) so I think you are remembering wrong or else you entered them on someone else's WT run.
    No, they are not. No MSQ or normal side quest requires EX.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyrant_Kangaroomouse View Post
    Then the easy fix is to add these to the roulette.
    They did. They added them to Mentor Roulette: Wanna know what happens when 7 mentors get into Ravana EX with a bonus? They all leave. People have given you suggestions so stop complaining.
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    People have given you multiple ways to get the old ex's done. They are not apart of any roulettes. Never have been. So the options are to use your FC or party finder.
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    Well it's in the mentor roulette.
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    Vimi Palatina
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    They do have a point, mentors are just regular players too that spent time getting 100 commendations, 3 classes up to 80, and something else, which can all be done without even touching a EX trial. If the content can go into a mentor roulette, then it can go into roulette maybe as it's own roulette. Like "Extreme Roulette & Savage Roulette" and let those roulettes give MSQ high rewards since they are considerably more challenging to do and to make up for the fact that you will be a bunch of randoms. And maybe have it so when a new expansion drops their Extreme/Savage trials/raids cannot be in the Extreme/Savage roulette until a month after the content drops, as to give the community time to look at guides/experience the content on their own before throwing them with a bunch of randoms.
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