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    Player
    Miziliti's Avatar
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    Character
    Tezu Silvin
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 80

    Use brain when doing consecutive big pulls

    This is getting to the point where I want to throw tantrum at the tank in 5.0 dungeons.

    You can sprint all the way for all I care, but if it takes you to burn all of your defensive cool downs to stay alive after ONE SINGLE big pull in dungeon, the chances are you healer also burned all his/her healing cool downs as well.

    What comes after? You sprint to do another big pull without tools to stay alive and your healer ends up spamming single heal as hard as one can possibly do because everything else is on cd. Your two DPSs are doing the best they can to kill everything, and you are but a wet tissue paper. Everyone then dies and it's a wipe.

    If you are a tank with a brain, you can judge you party members on how they perform. Are the two DPSs good? Is the healer capable? Is my cool downs available to do the next big pull?

    Staying alive during big pull is a team effort. Not just if the healer can keep you alive or not.

    Please stop killing your healer and DPSs. Please.
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    Player DonovanLifeweaver's Avatar
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    Character
    Vormav Tengille
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    2 things i do
    1- ask the healer if he can handle the heat
    2- continuous pulling moving backward and adding monsters steadily while the dps has fun chipping mobs away.
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Character
    Aelona Chillwind
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    I don't really have problems keeping people alive on my WHM and SCH CD's or not, but some people are really testing their luck lol.

    I am good enough to keep people alive just fine, but while leveling my PLD I've noticed how mixed it is with healers too.
    Like I had a healer earlier that couldn't keep me alive when I pulled two packs in The Stone Vigil because he/she was afk:ing like 4-5 seconds or even more inbetween every heal and was basically just casting Cure 1 and apparently it was my fault and people claimed that '' those aren't normal pulls ''.
    I also had a SCH casting Succor non-stop until OOM in every pull.

    Overall tho I dunno, I never had problems keeping tanks alive and still don't.
    If anything I have more problems with tanks like PLD's trying to '' help '' by spamming Clemency lol.
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    Player
    Voross's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ben Fukuro
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Pull 1: Tank CD's
    Pull 2: Tank Invuln
    Pull 3: Tank CD's again
    Rinse and repeat.

    Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
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    IntrovertAnt's Avatar
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    Character
    Mogbert Manderville
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Voross View Post
    Pull 1: Tank CD's
    Pull 2: Tank Invuln
    Pull 3: Tank CD's again
    Rinse and repeat.

    Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
    Hmm, unless your dps can kill 3+ packs of mobs in 6-10 seconds (immunity duration) that second pull may not go so well for the healer even still.
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Character
    Jyn Willowsong
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by IntrovertAnt View Post
    Hmm, unless your dps can kill 3+ packs of mobs in 6-10 seconds (immunity duration) that second pull may not go so well for the healer even still.
    Ah but your invuln gives time for your orher cooldowns to combeack up. For example, rampart should be back up or camouflage.
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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Character
    Cassius Rex
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Voross View Post
    Pull 1: Tank CD's
    Pull 2: Tank Invuln
    Pull 3: Tank CD's again
    Rinse and repeat.

    Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
    The Eorzean Healers' Association would humbly request that Dark Knights disregard the suggestion attached to header "Pull 2."
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    jetfire117's Avatar
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    Character
    Rujhezia Zima
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    The Eorzean Healers' Association would humbly request that Dark Knights disregard the suggestion attached to header "Pull 2."
    *sticks sword into ground* GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY ELSE
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    Character
    Gairovald Dryden
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    you make it sound like these are "real" tanks you're running with...


    I'm lucky if I get a tank that actually uses their CD (but yet they still have the balls to try and pull big)
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    Last edited by Gariored; 07-27-2019 at 04:49 PM.

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    Xia_Thas's Avatar
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    Character
    Xia Thas
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 86
    The party issues get solved real fast by basic communication. Are your Healers and Tanks talking? More at 11.
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