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    I'm sure i'll look dumb here but i know it changed before, but you're right in saying it doesn't now.
    I really don't believe i made an error before, but i may have. If i didn't then i was glitched of it got fixed.
    A quick glance says that 3 points of enhancing magic doesn't help them either, idk if a higher change would, i'll try later.
    Sorry for apparently givin out misinformed information, idk if something changed or i just screwed up really badly, either way, sorry and disregard what i said in previous posts. :/

    EDIT: PS; no it wasn't something as simple as the bonus from the gloves that was changing me, or acc from gear lol.
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    PIE and Enhancement magic doesn't affect the songs, however it is possible that I may have reached a cap but I doubt it. Battle Voice and Enhances Minuet/Ballads/Paeons from AF seem to be the only modifiers. Tested with 242-315 PIE, 170-214 VIT , 383-400 ENH (change purely from stacking VIT), 245-313 DEX.

    Ballad = 20 MP a tic
    Ballad w/ AF Body = 26 MP a tic
    Ballad with Battle Voice = 40 MP a tic
    Ballad w/ AF Body & BV = 51 MP a tic

    Minuet = 35 ACC/MACC
    Minuet w/ AF Gloves = 43 ACC/MACC
    Minuet w/ Battle Voice = 71 ACC/MACC
    Minuet w/ AF Gloves & BV = 86 ACC/MACC

    Paeon = 50 TP a tic
    Paeon w/ AF Legs = 60 TP a tic
    Paeon w/ Battle Voice = 100 TP a tic
    Paeon w/ AF Legs + BV = 120 TP a tic
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    They might be level based, we need a lower level bard to sing and post their numbers plz!
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    Fiofel Zalalafell
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    Level 45 Bard
    Vitality 154, Dexterity 199, Piety 190
    Healing Magic Potency 337, Enhancement Magic Potency 330

    Ballad of the Magi: 16 MP/tick (I recall a lower level, it was 14 MP/tick, but did not record stats)
    Minuet of Rigor: +30 accuracy (recall an earlier level it was +29 accuracy).
    Paeon of War: +50 TP/tick.
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    Last edited by Fiosha_Maureiba; 03-19-2012 at 08:21 AM.

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    so at least something has an impact on it
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    Its also possible that there is a factor we are missing at the moment. From the information posted thus far, it appear that only the particular "enhance (insert song hee)" from AF gear do anything. That really makes it appear that the other slots (accessories, waist, etc.) are best spent on either piety for damage/bind/heavy or dex, and I am also interested in testing how mnd effect out heal and vit effects our protect/ss. I would test it, but I am just having some downtime while on vacation at the Great Wolf Lodge, by the way, giant indoor waterparks are awesome.
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    ^^^
    It was tested way back when that MND does nothing for healing spells if they aren't native to your class. However, any healing potency that you get from that MND does boost your healing spells, so it isn't all useless. Long story short though, I'd just grab some PIE/DEX/ACC rings as it takes too much MND to boost healing potency. BRD could get some mileage out of that healing potency neckpiece, though.

    VIT is in a similar situation where you need to stack on a ton of it for any noticeable difference, but there is enhancing magic gear available from the new dungeons that could be of use. I really wouldn't worry about it too much, though, since you really only want the WHM/CNJ to be handing out Protects because of their trait bonuses and any Stoneskin is useful no matter how potent.
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    Well, good to know it's not Piety. What about Vit? Can we get a comparison from just normal gear or AF to a Vit heavy build?
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    Someone up higher on this page tested with a difference of 44 VIT
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    7 points of enhancement magic potency did not change the results of mine either (although this is a small amount)
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