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    This is not the real world. Leave all that stuff (religions, gender and sexual preferences, politics in general, etc.) out of here, please. No one cares about what you do or what you like IRL, as it should. So do whatever you want to do with your life, and let the devs create the fantasy world that they want to.

    In other words, your character is not you. You don't even own it, either. So, in the end, you can only choose what the devs allow you to choose considering how they envision their world. Same reason as of why they don't let us choose if we want to be a pure breed garlean, or an ascian, or play an evil character. Many players would love those, but the devs decided that they are not an option for PCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    This is not the real world. Leave all that stuff (religions, gender and sexual preferences, politics in general, etc.) out of here, please. No one cares about what you do or what you like IRL, as it should. So do whatever you want to do with your life, and let the devs create the fantasy world that they want to.

    In other words, your character is not you. You don't even own it, either. So, in the end, you can only choose what the devs allow you to choose considering how they envision their world. Same reason as of why they don't let us choose if we want to be a pure breed garlean, or an ascian, or play an evil character. Many players would love those, but the devs decided that they are not an option for PCs.
    People RP as all of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    This is not the real world. Leave all that stuff (religions, gender and sexual preferences, politics in general, etc.) out of here, please. No one cares about what you do or what you like IRL, as it should. So do whatever you want to do with your life, and let the devs create the fantasy world that they want to.

    In other words, your character is not you. You don't even own it, either. So, in the end, you can only choose what the devs allow you to choose considering how they envision their world. Same reason as of why they don't let us choose if we want to be a pure breed garlean, or an ascian, or play an evil character. Many players would love those, but the devs decided that they are not an option for PCs.
    Are we playing the same game? Did you really just skip over every political moment in this game that is a parallel to the real world.

    Heck they even have a small story element with the NPC "Koko" in the Azim Steppe regarding something very similar to what the OP is asking for.

    Honestly, the things I'd love to say to people like you and the many others in this thread that spew hate but I'd fetch a ban for that right quick.

    What I will say is you aren't clever, your intent is very clear. Hatred, hatred, hatred.

    Spin it however way you like but if this is the conclusion you come to, and I've seen your kind many times before, it's all from hatred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Honestly, the things I'd love to say to people like you and the many others in this thread that spew hate but I'd fetch a ban for that right quick.
    What I will say is you aren't clever, your intent is very clear. Hatred, hatred, hatred.
    Spin it however way you like but if this is the conclusion you come to, and I've seen your kind many times before, it's all from hatred.
    I don't hate gender confused people (by that I mean people that find it hip but don't have any real condition and just jump on the bandwagon) or people that suffer from real DSD.
    They have issues that should be treated. I respect them the same as I do all other humans but I'm not going to make exceptions for them or treat them with kid gloves because they demand it.

    DSDs account for less than 1% of the population, according to an article one of them linked here. We cannot adjust our language use for every supertiny minority. It would end up in total chaos.

    BTW: the only one that "spews hate" is actually you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    But the whole bringing real life stuff into the game is sorta meh in my eyes. This is a fantasy game and a fantasy world. We are not in the real world. I would be alittle iffy about adding too much stuff like this cause it opens a can of worms.
    Not just that, it also breaks immersion.
    Eorzea is a medieval culture, they have for more worries than some gender confusion our western society makes up because we apparently don't have any real problems to think about anymore. It just wouldn't fit because the society wasn't originally designed with this kind of behavior in mind.

    To force it in just to please a small part of a 1% minority is absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Honestly, the things I'd love to say to people like you and the many others in this thread that spew hate but I'd fetch a ban for that right quick.

    What I will say is you aren't clever, your intent is very clear. Hatred, hatred, hatred.

    Spin it however way you like but if this is the conclusion you come to, and I've seen your kind many times before, it's all from hatred.
    There's the go-to of the alphabet community. "reeeee hate! bigot! xyz-ist! zyx-phobic! reeee hate!" It's not hatred to want to leave real world socio-political BS out of a game. This is exactly the what I was referring to with my first post in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Are we playing the same game? Did you really just skip over every political moment in this game that is a parallel to the real world.

    Heck they even have a small story element with the NPC "Koko" in the Azim Steppe regarding something very similar to what the OP is asking for.

    Honestly, the things I'd love to say to people like you and the many others in this thread that spew hate but I'd fetch a ban for that right quick.

    What I will say is you aren't clever, your intent is very clear. Hatred, hatred, hatred.

    Spin it however way you like but if this is the conclusion you come to, and I've seen your kind many times before, it's all from hatred.
    "I've seen your kind many times before"

    You being bigoted? Cuz guess what. The language you are using is. Quite ironic.
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    Last edited by WaterShield; 07-29-2019 at 01:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Are we playing the same game? Did you really just skip over every political moment in this game that is a parallel to the real world.

    Heck they even have a small story element with the NPC "Koko" in the Azim Steppe regarding something very similar to what the OP is asking for.

    Honestly, the things I'd love to say to people like you and the many others in this thread that spew hate but I'd fetch a ban for that right quick.

    What I will say is you aren't clever, your intent is very clear. Hatred, hatred, hatred.

    Spin it however way you like but if this is the conclusion you come to, and I've seen your kind many times before, it's all from hatred.
    Do you know what's interesting about this post, and which illustrates plenty of other more passive-aggressive ones too? That you have no idea of who I am (maybe because I don't go around waving any flags and generally disrupting other people's lives), yet here we are, assuming things and spewing hate. You might have suffered a lot on your life, or whatever, but that doesn't make you special. Plenty of people go through bad -and maybe worse- stuff and aren't constantly demanding things, attacking others or feeling ofended over everything. The only thing that you accomplish by doing this is to make people feel tired of you, which is not the way towards tolerance and respect (because you don't show it, to start with).

    This is why a lot of us don't want this socio-politic stuff in our games, or in entertainment in general. We have enough of that crap on our daily lives.

    We, as of the rest of the playerbase (and some are part of other minorities, too), don't put our RL issues and problems on you. Why do some of you insist on doing it to us? Live and let live.

    EDIT: Just in case, this reply is aimed at the people like the person which I quoted. My reply for this topic is still the other one.
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    Last edited by Yshnal; 07-29-2019 at 01:25 AM.