Customizable pronouns

[cinnamonoreo]

Judge me if you want, but I've some bad news for you. This non binary political correct stuff is strictly a western culture idea and philosophy. Japan is most definitely not part of it and probably never will be.

Binary gender as you've been taught is mostly a very Western notion and relatively fairly modern. Indigenous cultures prior to the colonization of the Americas included genders that didn't fit the traditional Western male or female model, for instance. In medieval Europe, there is evidence that gender lines were crossed or at the very least blurrier than what we enforce today, depending on culture.

It's also very weird to see this notion of Japanese culture not having nonbinary people. Nonbinary Japanese do exist. They navigate their culture differently than we Americans do ours, but they do exist. Japan is not a monolithic ultra-conservative culture. Like any other nation, Japan is inhabited by people of all stripes that each have to navigate the rules of their dominant culture differently. Yoshi P is clearly aware trans people exist. I have no doubt he's aware of nonbinary people too. It's not gonna be a mysterious and mythical thing for a Japanese person.

[Komarimono]

Binary gender as you've been taught is mostly a very Western notion and relatively fairly modern. Indigenous cultures prior to the colonization of the Americas included genders that didn't fit the traditional Western male or female model, for instance. In medieval Europe, there is evidence that gender lines were crossed or at the very least blurrier than what we enforce today, depending on culture.

It's also very weird to see this notion of Japanese culture not having nonbinary people. Nonbinary Japanese do exist. They navigate their culture differently than we Americans do ours, but they do exist. Japan is not a monolithic ultra-conservative culture. Like any other nation, Japan is inhabited by people of all stripes that each have to navigate the rules of their dominant culture differently. Yoshi P is clearly aware trans people exist. I have no doubt he's aware of nonbinary people too. It's not gonna be a mysterious and mythical thing for a Japanese person.

Yes, we do exist.
But the difference is most of us are not flaunting it like it's something special or wanting attention for it. If you need to rely on someones words to set your self worth instead of relying on yourself and actions to do so, you've already lost in life and you're being self entitled more then the other if prefer to have these pronouns used.

We're human beings and words are not what treats us different but the actions of others for or against you in life. Quit using emotions to control your life, start using that wonderful powerful organ in your head and start treating it better as well. This whole movement to make others include people like myself and others in far and expansive ways since the population of people like me is less then 4% of the entire world, is just so odd. I don't want people bending over backwards for me, I don't want them to do anything other then treat me the same way I treat them. And I sure as heck don't get offended if they refer to me by a pronoun that I emotionally feel does not fit my non binary gender.

I'm not special, just me. No LGBTQ+infinite is special. We're as human as anyone else, simple as that. Just go on with your life and quit expecting the world to treat us better for no reason. Quit using your sexuality define you, humans are far more then that and limiting them otherwise is silly.

[Granyala]

Yes, we do exist.

Thank you for writing that.
People need to see this.
This is how I want any non binary gender person to behave.

[cinnamonoreo]

Thank you for writing that.
People need to see this.
This is how I want any non binary gender person to behave.

In other words, you want us to be invisible so you can pretend we don't exist? Purely for your benefit?

[Siete]

In other words, you want us to be invisible so you can pretend we don't exist? Purely for your benefit?

What do you mean invisible?
Are you a person or are you just the concept of non-binary? Because you seem more concerned about the concept than yourself.

Also, I'm sorry, but your "wonderful powerful organ" must understand that the world we live in and the world in the game are completely different things, and as far as we know "males" could be laying eggs in the world of FFXIV after holding hands or something.

[VillainQueen]

In other words, you want us to be invisible so you can pretend we don't exist? Purely for your benefit?

Like you want to have others go out of their way for your benefit?

[Granyala]

In other words, you want us to be invisible so you can pretend we don't exist? Purely for your benefit?

Call me old fashioned but I consider sexuality a part of peoples private life.
I don't care and I don't want it shoved into my face. Yes.

BTW what do you mean by this:

I prefer people refer to me using they/them pronouns in English.

Are you seeing yourself as a multiple personality or sth?
Last I checked (non English native here) "they" or "them" refers to multiple persons. Oo

[Hash_Browns]

Are you seeing yourself as a multiple personality or sth?
Last I checked (non English native here) "they" or "them" refers to multiple persons. Oo

Pretty sure they aren't doing that, and you're just trying to find excuses to discredit them.

See what I did there?

[Granyala]

Pretty sure they aren't doing that, and you're just trying to find excuses to discredit them.
See what I did there?

Honestly?
No I don't. Might be a language barrier on that one.

In case you thought I did try to discredit anyone, I actually quoted the person I was asking, you can find the original statement here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post5103212

[Siete]

Yes, we do exist.
But the difference is most of us are not flaunting it like it's something special or wanting attention for it. If you need to rely on someones words to set your self worth instead of relying on yourself and actions to do so, you've already lost in life and you're being self entitled more then the other if prefer to have these pronouns used.

We're human beings and words are not what treats us different but the actions of others for or against you in life. Quit using emotions to control your life, start using that wonderful powerful organ in your head and start treating it better as well. This whole movement to make others include people like myself and others in far and expansive ways since the population of people like me is less then 4% of the entire world, is just so odd. I don't want people bending over backwards for me, I don't want them to do anything other then treat me the same way I treat them. And I sure as heck don't get offended if they refer to me by a pronoun that I emotionally feel does not fit my non binary gender.

I'm not special, just me. No LGBTQ+infinite is special. We're as human as anyone else, simple as that. Just go on with your life and quit expecting the world to treat us better for no reason. Quit using your sexuality define you, humans are far more then that and limiting them otherwise is silly.

A thousand times this, I'm pretty much non-binary IRL and that I hold just for me, I don't give a *beep* about how others see me or refer to me, heck most of the times people misspell my real name simply because how weird it is and I'm kept being called whatever that is not my name lol.