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    Taranok's Avatar
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    Arilaya Syldove
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    To be specific, the skill is a loss even at its original 300 potency. 255 potency is the potency it needs to even be worth looking at as opposed to the regular spell combo. It converts mana from a potency gain to a potency drain which needs to be taken into account when calculating the loss of potency as well.

    It's not 400 potency loss, no, but it's significant in its own ways.
    Yes, but my point is that if you ever use Scathe in Astral Fire, you directly sacrifice casting a fire 4 to do it, which is a massive loss in potency for doing that. Because of that, it is comparable to Enchanted Reprise because you're actively choosing to sacrifice DPS to actively salvage the GCD, and it sucks for everyone involved to use these abilities.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaraD_ View Post
    snippy snap
    I just ran the numbers, and 20 mana is approximately 283.75 potency. So you give up 284 potency in mana plus your "standard GCD" to salvage 220 potency and the GCD. It stings, and depending on how different it is from your average GCD (not to mention your timings being messed up) it can sting more, but that puts it in similar territory to Scathe for using these abilities to salvage GCDs.

    The only difference is Red Mage doesn't have remotely close to as manay isntant casts as BLM can have on demand if it needs it between Xenoglossy, Firestarter, Thundercloud, and Swift/Triplecast. And Black mage doesn't care half as much about its rotation's timing being messed up as a Red Mage.

    But the point stands, the 2 are directly comparable because they both throw away substantial amounts of damage.

    EDIT: To add, I didn't factor in the mana you would have gotten from Verholy/Verflare/Scorch, so that will throw up the potency loss by 1/8th of the extra added mana, approximately. Which is about 62 potency worth in opportunity cost, so you're looking at about 346 potency lost from using it to salvage 220 and the GCD. It's literally in the same ballpark as Scathe when used during AF.
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    Last edited by Taranok; 07-27-2019 at 10:48 AM.