Please let PS4 parse our dps like pc

[Ardox]

Interact: (to) act in such a way as to have an effect on another.
A parser does not have an effect on the game whatsoever. The game doesn't even know the parser exists. The parser doesn't even look at the game itself. The parser literally translates log files that are already saved on your computer to an easier format to read.

If you want to play on words:
1) Interaction can be direct or indirect. If the parser change the player behavior, then you have a indirect relationship.
2) Parsing give you an advantage (which is also brohibited) — or it don't give you an advantage (so why use it?)
3) it also fall under analyzing and/or retro engineer the data

You might find the wording weak, but you would stand no change to fight a suspension of account with that argument

[Shurrikhan]

And it's against their terms of service to use them. But that's none of my business...

FFlogs is not against ToS, only real-time parsers that intercept network data are. FFlogs is simply a website to which information may be posted and is outside the purview of the ToS.

[HWalsh]

FFlogs is not against ToS, only real-time parsers that intercept network data are. FFlogs is simply a website to which information may be posted and is outside the purview of the ToS.

Strictly speaking, yes, FFLogs is against the TOS.

Which is why, in game, if you talk about data from FFLogs you can be banned.

FFLogs is a 3rd party app which interprets data from FFXIV and is a violation of the ToS.

[Shurrikhan]

Strictly speaking, yes, FFLogs is against the TOS.

Which is why, in game, if you talk about data from FFLogs you can be banned.

FFLogs is a 3rd party app which interprets data from FFXIV and is a violation of the ToS.

That something is against ToS does not mean that all information allowed for by the illegal activity are also against ToS. Nor does FFXIV have exclusive rights over information presented in its game sessions; else screenshots would also be against ToS if they so much as showed an activity against ToS, whether you were part of the guilty party or not.

I can't run someone over; I may, however, be required to read about vehicular trauma for HBS or forensics classes.

Talking about FFlogs will not get you banned. Talking about your actively parsing, be it to send to FFlogs or for any other reason, can.

Edit: And let's be clear. FFlogs is not a 3rd party app. It is "third-party", sure, but it is not an app; it cannot be executed on its own. It is a website, first and foremost, and the same name is used for a plugin for ACT which conveniences uploading to that website.

[Kaethra]

Strictly speaking, yes, FFLogs is against the TOS.

Which is why, in game, if you talk about data from FFLogs you can be banned.

FFLogs is a 3rd party app which interprets data from FFXIV and is a violation of the ToS.

Then report everyone. Then we'll see who's right and who's wrong. Report everyone referencing FFLogs. If you don't, you're an accomplice.

You don't support 3rd party programs and the cheaters that do, do you?

[HWalsh]

Then report everyone. Then we'll see who's right and who's wrong. Report everyone referencing FFLogs. If you don't, you're an accomplice.

You don't support 3rd party programs and the cheaters that do, do you?

Mention FFLogs and that you're parsing someone's DPS in game and I *will* report it. Very quickly in fact. That's been explicitly against the ToS forever.

[LaylaTsarra]

Not happening... director is opposed to anything official.

https://clips.twitch.tv/EphemeralCloudyDurianDendiFace

[LiteBrite]

Their usage is tolerated, as long as it's not used against other people

And yet the FFlogs are. With no parsers for ps4 players, yet they are judged on their FFlogs. I know completely fair...

[Kaethra]

And yet the FFlogs are. With no parsers for ps4 players, yet they are judged on their FFlogs. I know completely fair...

Except its not. There's nothing they can do about a private website that takes text files and analyzes them.

Even if they wanted to go for a stretch and get them for copyright. All the owners of the site would have to do is rename the site. And players would still be able to find it and use it.

[Alucard135]

And yet the FFlogs are. With no parsers for ps4 players, yet they are judged on their FFlogs. I know completely fair...

Yes it's fair. There are many good PS4 players that never used a parser.