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    meh seems a little redundant at that point. I think what we have is fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klb600 View Post
    meh seems a little redundant at that point. I think what we have is fine.
    It is not a matter of adding a replacement for Gunbreaker but to introduce something that is something different in gameplay style that has been set into FF14.

    We've been teased by the Garlean gunblade since 1.0 and they established the Lore that Gunbreaker Gunblade and Garlean Gunblades are two completely different weapons. It is a rather interesting opportunity they set up in the game as we know how the Garlean Gunblade combat works through the years of encounters being a Hybrid of Melee and Range combat due to the design.

    I am not saying Gunbreaker is bad as it is a decent tank as the Sorceress/Oracle Knight themed Job based on FF8 characters Squall and Seifer.

    However, the Garlean Gunblade facinates me a bit more since it is something designed for FF14 beginning with Gaius then become more spread with other Garlean NPCs. It would also give them a chance to introduce a Job that is FF14 exclusive as Yoshi-P did once said sometime back in 2.X or 3.X that he did have interests in introducing FF14 exclusive Jobs despite most New Jobs will be from past FF games.
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    The more I was thinking about it, but it would be very very nice to have the Garlean Gunblade job as a alternative to Gunbreakers that would prefer a more offensive measure (DPS type). Far as I can tell for Physical Ranged DPS there is room for one more, maybe have this as the fourth candidate hopefully?

    I was kind of let down that Gunbreaker was a Tank Type, but I wasn't against it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    The more I was thinking about it, but it would be very very nice to have the Garlean Gunblade job as a alternative to Gunbreakers that would prefer a more offensive measure (DPS type). Far as I can tell for Physical Ranged DPS there is room for one more, maybe have this as the fourth candidate hopefully?

    I was kind of let down that Gunbreaker was a Tank Type, but I wasn't against it either.
    I find the Gunbreaker fit the role of the Tank more due to being based on Squall/Seifer which both are characters that acted as the Tank for their Sorceress as the Sorceress Knights. A player can even build Squall to be heck of a strong tank due to his base stats.

    Garlean Gunblade tend to give me more of a DPS feel as something that focus more on Bute Force as it is designed to compensate for Garlean's lack of ability to use magic thus the Garlean Gunblade focus more on Destructive Power over the Gunbreaker Gunblade being more defensive.

    The Ammo for Gunbreakers Gunblade are also made by the user themselves by infusing their own magical energy (or finding someone to infuse the ammo for them) into the Gunbreaker Gunblade Ammo so Gunbreaker's Gunblade is designed with some expectation for the User to be able to use magic thus Gunbreaker's Source of Unlimited Ammo is themselves while Garlean Gunblades are designed to be made for people who cannot use Magic thus their "Ammo" generation is a bit different through we still need SE to get into more details about this aspect of the Garlean Gunblade since so far we only know Ceruleum is involved but how it is used is small in details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    The more I was thinking about it, but it would be very very nice to have the Garlean Gunblade job as a alternative to Gunbreakers that would prefer a more offensive measure (DPS type). Far as I can tell for Physical Ranged DPS there is room for one more, maybe have this as the fourth candidate hopefully?

    I was kind of let down that Gunbreaker was a Tank Type, but I wasn't against it either.
    DNC is the 4th ranged physical job. I could see a 2 handed melee eventualy being added to share gear with drg or nin.

    But as it sits right now magic ranged and healer both sit at 3 jobs each so very possible next expansion wall have those 2 added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazzel120 View Post
    DNC is the 4th ranged physical job. I could see a 2 handed melee eventualy being added to share gear with drg or nin.

    But as it sits right now magic ranged and healer both sit at 3 jobs each so very possible next expansion wall have those 2 added.
    Depends on a certain point of view.

    If we go by Gear/Stats we have.....

    4 Tanks.

    3 Healers

    3 Physical STR Melee

    1 Physical DEX Melee

    3 Magic Range DPS

    3 Physical Range DPS

    On other hand it would be a bit funny if the Garlean Gunblade Job ended up being a Instant Cast Magic Range DPS Job that use Ceruleum Energy to perform Magic Range Slash Attacks with the Garlean Gunblade and Magic Range Bullet Attacks as well. It would then become the FF14 version of a Range Magic Knight but instead of a Normal Sword to make those Magic Slash Projectiles with the Left Hand summoning Range Magic Bullet like Projectiles, it is the Ceruleum Powered Galrean Gunblade that does both.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 07-28-2019 at 01:21 AM.

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    they missed an opportunity to have gnb have its roots based in garlean lore than with the hrothgar... which i'm a little sad about but meh. prior to shb i was under the impression the job mentor would be a garlean who defected from the empire, came to eorzea and would ultimately teach you what they know. esp considering we've seen variations of it before. (i guess the concept art of it also influenced my thoughts on it), as well as the general direction the story is taking, it kind of made sense to me. i didn't really think it would be a hrothgar but in the meantime, i'll be out here living my best fantasy lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by killstein View Post
    they missed an opportunity to have gnb have its roots based in garlean lore than with the hrothgar... which i'm a little sad about but meh. prior to shb i was under the impression the job mentor would be a garlean who defected from the empire, came to eorzea and would ultimately teach you what they know. esp considering we've seen variations of it before. (i guess the concept art of it also influenced my thoughts on it), as well as the general direction the story is taking, it kind of made sense to me. i didn't really think it would be a hrothgar but in the meantime, i'll be out here living my best fantasy lol
    I think they're still wrapped in the Empire Bad mentality. Which is a shame.
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    If they do add it, though not likely since a healer is probably next, I still feel it makes no sense. It's literally just a gun, with a blade under the barrel for 99% of of their arsenal. Plus the weapon isn't to just a standard gun and blade. There's the Heirsbane(Just a fancy looking stock Garlean Gunblade), Bradamante(Halberd style Gunblade), Hammer Variant, Gauntlet/Fists Variant. Shield Gunblades... Think that covers most of it?

    Either way, in the end they are just guns built into the weapons, nothing magitek involved in them, the magitek coming from other sources like the suits for the baddies that could do no more then just pew pew and slash with their weapon.

    That's why I think their would be little to base a whole new job off of it. Nothing unique or special about the weapon, the effects and powers coming from the persons wielding them instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    If they do add it, though not likely since a healer is probably next, I still feel it makes no sense. It's literally just a gun, with a blade under the barrel for 99% of of their arsenal. Plus the weapon isn't to just a standard gun and blade. There's the Heirsbane(Just a fancy looking stock Garlean Gunblade), Bradamante(Halberd style Gunblade), Hammer Variant, Gauntlet/Fists Variant. Shield Gunblades... Think that covers most of it?

    Either way, in the end they are just guns built into the weapons, nothing magitek involved in them, the magitek coming from other sources like the suits for the baddies that could do no more then just pew pew and slash with their weapon.

    That's why I think their would be little to base a whole new job off of it. Nothing unique or special about the weapon, the effects and powers coming from the persons wielding them instead.
    The source for Garlean Gunblade's magical abilities comes from Ceruleum. Garlean Gunblades are made to compensate for the Garlean lack of ability to use magic thus the weapon was designed to use Ceruleum as the magical energy source instead of the user themselves.

    It is also the reason why the Garlean Gunblade creates these Azure Flame attacks for Gaius, Regula, and Vitus as Ceruleum is the source of the Azure Flame attacks created by using Garlean Gunblades.

    Quote Originally Posted by kazzel120 View Post
    Yeah my bad it is only 3 ranged physical. But even Yoshi P said dnc was made ranged p dps because it only had 2.

    Where as melee is at 4 right now tanks at 4 healers 3 and magic dps 3 so as it stands healer, magic dps and ranged p will maybe get a new job before melee.
    Well Garlean Gunblades can be either Magic DPS or Physical DPS based on what the developer choose lore wise as Ceruleum is the source of power for the Garlean Gunblades which tend to have this Azure Flame magic effect on the weapon's abilities so anyone with or without Magic can use a Garlean Gunblade.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 07-28-2019 at 04:01 AM.

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