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    Alathriel Voras
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    Trust System Npcs

    So i was wondering, is there a diffrence between the npcs in the trust system, not counting their jobs. Like is one better than the other at their roles, like is Y'shtola better than Alisaie, or Alphinaud than Urianger? for example.
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    Jubii Io
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    Take this with a grain of salt. But I've heard people say Ryne is the best at... "sustained" DPS. I've also heard people usually prefer Alphinaud to Urianger because of Alphianud's shields and a damage buff he can give you.

    Probably unrelated in some way, but I've seen Alisae cast "Vercure III" when things got really dicey. Healed all of us fairly good.
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    I don't know about dps. Supposedly, Uriangr is a more reliable healer but I haven't had issues with either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeppermintBrown View Post
    I don't know about dps. Supposedly, Uriangr is a more reliable healer but I haven't had issues with either.
    Me: at 20% HP, Hallowed Ground activated and everything else already on CD

    Urianger: casting Malefic

    Me: ......
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Me: at 20% HP, Hallowed Ground activated and everything else already on CD

    Urianger: casting Malefic

    Me: ......
    I know its like playing with real players who sometimes suddenly suck at thier job. my favorite is the stack marker getting on you in Holminster they always run to the center of the room and I''m like... damnit they're trolling me in a Trust too.
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    Leon Reddas
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    I've also seen Alisae cast Veraise when Urianger somehow kicked the bucket, so she definitely has the utility there. Didn't find Alphinaud to be a reliable healer honestly...
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    I've also seen Alisae cast Veraise when Urianger somehow kicked the bucket, so she definitely has the utility there. Didn't find Alphinaud to be a reliable healer honestly...
    Alphinaud died on me at one point, and being a summoner I cast Resurrect but I don't think it worked - I'm sure I saw the animation go off but he didn't get the Raise status. Still, he revived not long after and I assumed he just respawned, but it must have been Alisaie, so possibly only other NPCs can raise NPCs.

    Either that or it's actually a scripted thing for the healer to die and Alisaie to Verraise them occasionally, because you wouldn't want it to happen without her there. (Y'shtola could still cast Raise, I guess, but not sure Minfilia would have it.)
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    Last edited by Iscah; 07-26-2019 at 06:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
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    Hmm I've no idea, I've only see Alisae do it just the once so probably need to do some more testing but I definitely remember her having a voiceline for it, like "back on your feet" or something like that. If Y'shtola can Raise as well that's handy to know, might tank and drop some aoes on one of the healers and see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Hmm I've no idea, I've only see Alisae do it just the once so probably need to do some more testing but I definitely remember her having a voiceline for it, like "back on your feet" or something like that. If Y'shtola can Raise as well that's handy to know, might tank and drop some aoes on one of the healers and see what happens.
    I don't actually know if she can raise or not - just that with her previous conjurer training and the Scions' general "not quite standard job skillset" approach, it seems logical that she might be able to. Especially since it would be useful backup when it seems that the healer AI is not guaranteed to keep themself alive.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Alphinaud died on me at one point, and being a summoner I cast Resurrect but I don't think it worked - I'm sure I saw the animation go off but he didn't get the Raise status. Still, he revived not long after and I assumed he just respawned, but it must have been Alisaie, so possibly only other NPCs can raise NPCs.
    Trusts don't get the raise status effect. They just get back up a few seconds after you cast it.

    Either that or it's actually a scripted thing for the healer to die and Alisaie to Verraise them occasionally, because you wouldn't want it to happen without her there. (Y'shtola could still cast Raise, I guess, but not sure Minfilia would have it.)
    If your healer dies and Allisaie isn't there, someone will Phoenix Down after the current combat ends. If you are the healer, they'll wait around for you to cast raise. Interestingly, if you leave someone down and run ahead, their corpse will eventually teleport to you so you can raise them without running all the way back.
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