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    It's healthy for people to be constructively critical of a game, but it sounds like this is a case of 'repetitive' for one person being 'consistency' for another. They're obviously willing to try and mix things up (Shared FATES/role quests/Eureka/ect) so I'd imagine it's more them trying to walk that innovation/business safe line and having to work with the technical framework they've built. Like other's have said, MMOs are always going to have some element of grind to them regardless if they're a sandbox or theme park so it comes down to how you want to spend that time. People who engage with all the crafting/gathering or role playing/decorating may have more to do then someone who comes to run through story and start raiding.

    It's also okay to unsubscribe for a time if you feel you're not having fun. Better to engage with the content you do enjoy rather then struggle through stuff you don't.

    And offer that constructive feedback. We know that the devs do listen although they may not be as vocal as some people would like, but the more constructive feedback (not positive, but critique presented in a constructive way) the devs can present, the more they can push for more things in budgets or design risks. The more specifics they can point at and say "we can quantify x, y, and z changes because of this..." the more likely they are to get it rather then mounds and mounts of posts saying "OMG this is trash!"
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    No, i'm never bored of this amazing game. <3
    The job changes are even better than before and i'm having lots of fun!
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    Play something else. That is the advice I can give anyone who get's bored of games that are basically endless. Sometimes people just need a change and that's okay you can always come back later
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    The combat in this game is dull and lacking in fluidity, it's one of the worst on the mmo market. The whole weaving thing is terrible, it's basically like if you were playing an FPS and you're using an assault riffle but in between the bullets coming out of the barrel you try to punch them in the face real quick. If you suggest improvement to anything regarding FFXIV, the hardcore fanboy playerbase will shut you down and say "the game is not for you."

    WoW did not die because unbalanced or whatever, it died because people got tired of it being t he same thing every expansion. Its combat didn't become more modern and its graphics remained stale. Just like WoW, FFXIV refuse to improve, it's going to slowly die as games with better combat, graphics, and content come out, just like WoW.
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    Last edited by Xyr; 07-26-2019 at 08:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyr View Post
    The combat in this game is dull and lacking in fluidity, it's one of the worst on the mmo market. The whole weaving thing is terrible, it's basically like if you were playing an FPS and you're using an assault riffle but in between the bullets coming out of the barrel you try to punch them in the face real quick. If you suggest improvement to anything regarding FFXIV, the hardcore fanboy playerbase will shut you down and say "the game is not for you."

    WoW did not die because unbalanced or whatever, it died because people got tired of it being t he same thing every expansion. Its combat didn't become more modern and its graphics remained stale. Just like WoW, FFXIV refuse to improve, it's going to slowly die as games with better combat, graphics, and content come out, just like WoW.
    Why are you even here tho? I mean if you don't enjoy the game that's fine but other people have different taste hence "this game is not for you" It doesn't have to change to your liking when it does fit the taste of many others. Your opinion isn't the only one that matters. Just because you think certain things would be improvements doesn't mean others think the same. Save yourself and us the time by sticking around being a negative person. Leave, play something else, have fun while we have it with this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VillainQueen View Post
    Why are you even here tho? I mean if you don't enjoy the game that's fine but other people have different taste hence "this game is not for you" It doesn't have to change to your liking when it does fit the taste of many others. Your opinion isn't the only one that matters. Just because you think certain things would be improvements doesn't mean others think the same. Save yourself and us the time by sticking around being a negative person. Leave, play something else, have fun while we have it with this game.
    Because I pay the same amount of money you do to play this game. It's my right to say what I think would be improvements. Right back at you, if you don't like change, feel free to leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyr View Post
    Because I pay the same amount of money you do to play this game. It's my right to say what I think would be improvements. Right back at you, if you don't like change, feel free to leave.
    But the combat won't change and you have to accept that, instead you keep whining about it online. Like I get it you pay for this game just to cry about how you don't like how it plays. That's one of the most pathetic things I've read for a long time. I'm not saying you can't suggest what you would like in the game but an adult should come to terms with what is realistic and what is not.
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    Last edited by VillainQueen; 07-26-2019 at 08:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyr View Post
    Because I pay the same amount of money you do to play this game. It's my right to say what I think would be improvements. Right back at you, if you don't like change, feel free to leave.
    I've played action mmos. The "ooooo shiny" factor wore off after a month or so, and I found the bosses and encounters more boring, and the combat got just as same after awhile. Tera was one that got old pretty quickly.

    Also, I was under the impression that the reason wow is failing isn't because it hasn't changed, but because it's changed too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Also, I was under the impression that the reason wow is failing isn't because it hasn't changed, but because it's changed too much.
    It's complicated. WoW had to change because the market for MMOs is so much different than when WoW was first released back in ... 2006? You have to remember that before WoW most MMOs were sandboxes, and WoW started that heavy transition from predominantly sandbox gameplay to themepark gameplay. So there was a bunch of stuff in vanilla WoW that needed to change. Also just QoL improvements. There were no quest markers - you had to actually read the quests. There were no markers above enemies to indicate it was a quest enemy, you had to read the quests. Adventuring could easily kill you so you had to group up with people spontaneously to survive (something which I love and is something I love about ESO making it more social a game than both FFXIV and WoW).

    But there are some changes that were not so good, like the implementation of the huge emphasis on RNG for loot, which makes it clear Blizz devs don't ever want you to stop playing the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I've played action mmos. The "ooooo shiny" factor wore off after a month or so, and I found the bosses and encounters more boring, and the combat got just as same after awhile. Tera was one that got old pretty quickly.

    Also, I was under the impression that the reason wow is failing isn't because it hasn't changed, but because it's changed too much.
    Certainly not. What has changed in WoW? 99% QoL stuff. The art didn't change, they are still using the crap from 2006, it's just rendered in 10x more. The combat changed? Nope. The raids and dungeons changed? Certainly not, the boss names might be different and have different models but the the mechanics are the same. WoW is failing because the core of the game didn't change and it's just too old. Just like FFXIV, there are plenty of people in WoW that still plays because they enjoy the old unchanging style. But what else beyond that? It can't attract newer players because it doesn't have modern gamestyle, so as more and more players leave because it's getting old, it began to fail.
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