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[Nims]

If you do not play a themepark storybased MMO for its story then you should not really be paying the price of admission, that is just a waste of money.

I really wish people would stop with this "iTs A sToRy BaSeD mMmOoOOOO" yeah so are ALL MMOS They're mmoRPGS, every single one has lore, every single one has a reason for why you're doing whatever it is you're doing. Have you people never played any other mmo?

Also people may not openly complain when someone does small pulls but in voice comms and irl, a lot of people do.

[Mahoukenshi]

I really wish people would stop with this "iTs A sToRy BaSeD mMmOoOOOO" yeah so are ALL MMOS They're mmoRPGS, every single one has lore, every single one has a reason for why you're doing whatever it is you're doing. Have you people never played any other mmo?

Also people may not openly complain when someone does small pulls but in voice comms and irl, a lot of people do.

Some MMOs are focusing more on the story than others, like GW2, SWTOR and FF XIV. I cannot speak for WoW anymore (only did quests and levled alts till Cata), but all of the "deeper"/more interesting story was gated behind raids, unless you count WotLK and Cata for introducing phasing and mini-storys per quest hub.

[Nims]

Some MMOs are focusing more on the story than others, like GW2, SWTOR and FF XIV. I cannot speak for WoW anymore (only did quests and levled alts till Cata), but all of the "deeper"/more interesting story was gated behind raids, unless you count WotLK and Cata for introducing phasing and mini-storys per quest hub.

No, they're all equally as focused on story as the next one. Some have more lore than each other but they're all just as focused. Regardless of where the lore is, doesn't mean it's not "story focused". I don't know why but that line just triggers me so much. People keep saying it like it actually makes sense, it's just redundant "A story based mmorpg" since when aren't rpgs story based/focused?

[Skivvy]

If you do not play a themepark storybased MMO for its story then you should not really be paying the price of admission, that is just a waste of money.

We have quite a few theme parks around where I live, and each park has certain rides and attractions I avoid at all costs as I don't care for them. However, I've never felt that I'm not getting my money's worth when I go because they have so many other things that DO appeal to me.

[Hazama999]

No, they're all equally as focused on story as the next one. Some have more lore than each other but they're all just as focused. Regardless of where the lore is, doesn't mean it's not "story focused". I don't know why but that line just triggers me so much. People keep saying it like it actually makes sense, it's just redundant "A story based mmorpg" since when aren't rpgs story based/focused?

I guess a better way to word it would be "the story isn't utter trash as is the case on other MMOs."

[Nims]

I guess a better way to word it would be "the story isn't utter trash as is the case on other MMOs."

Nope as that's an entirely different argument and highly subjective. A lot of people in this community act as if other mmos have absolutely zero lore.

Other mmos just don't force their lore on you, which is something I personally like but eh.

[Vidu]

Nope as that's an entirely different argument and highly subjective. A lot of people in this community act as if other mmos have absolutely zero lore.

Other mmos just don't force their lore on you, which is something I personally like but eh.

But thats what people mean by saying this is a story-focused MMO: That the story is the center piece of this particular game. I actually havent played other MMOs but from the impressions I've gathered (and from what your post right here implies) some other games - like WoW - might also have a story and lore, but not everything tied as close to it as we have in FFXIV.

Final Fantasy games have traditionally been games with a heavy story-focus that included you sitting through 30 minute cutscenes at times without "playing" the game at all. Clearly thats not for everyone and thats fine! Its just that thats what you have to expect from a Final Fantasy game - an involved story thats "forced" on you, with lots of cutscenes and dialouge and less of a "here is your endgame, now start playing the game".
I dont think people deny that other MMOs have a story and/or lore - its just not as much a focus as it is in FFXIV. Even without ever having played WoW I can say that I never got the impression that the story was the selling point of that game (I've only read a few articles when new expansions launched and they never felt like you would absolutly need to play the game for its amazing story). With FFXIV thats different: a lot of people came here or are here mainly for the story. And those who arent... well, can either skip cutscenes or look for a different MMO that shifted its focus from the storytelling-aspect of the genre to something else.

[Machi_Machiavelli]

But thats what people mean by saying this is a story-focused MMO: That the story is the center piece of this particular game. I actually havent played other MMOs but from the impressions I've gathered (and from what your post right here implies) some other games - like WoW - might also have a story and lore, but not everything tied as close to it as we have in FFXIV.

Final Fantasy games have traditionally been games with a heavy story-focus that included you sitting through 30 minute cutscenes at times without "playing" the game at all. Clearly thats not for everyone and thats fine! Its just that thats what you have to expect from a Final Fantasy game - an involved story thats "forced" on you, with lots of cutscenes and dialouge and less of a "here is your endgame, now start playing the game".
I dont think people deny that other MMOs have a story and/or lore - its just not as much a focus as it is in FFXIV. Even without ever having played WoW I can say that I never got the impression that the story was the selling point of that game (I've only read a few articles when new expansions launched and they never felt like you would absolutly need to play the game for its amazing story). With FFXIV thats different: a lot of people came here or are here mainly for the story. And those who arent... well, can either skip cutscenes or look for a different MMO that shifted its focus from the storytelling-aspect of the genre to something else.

Minor correction. Other final fantasy games have pretty good CGI cutscenes (for the time period), which enhances the story and makes you want to sit and watch it. FFXIV only provides that in the Opening movies and trailers.

[Nims]

But thats what people mean by saying this is a story-focused MMO: That the story is the center piece of this particular game. I actually havent played other MMOs but from the impressions I've gathered (and from what your post right here implies) some other games - like WoW - might also have a story and lore, but not everything tied as close to it as we have in FFXIV.

Final Fantasy games have traditionally been games with a heavy story-focus that included you sitting through 30 minute cutscenes at times without "playing" the game at all. Clearly thats not for everyone and thats fine! Its just that thats what you have to expect from a Final Fantasy game - an involved story thats "forced" on you, with lots of cutscenes and dialouge and less of a "here is your endgame, now start playing the game".
I dont think people deny that other MMOs have a story and/or lore - its just not as much a focus as it is in FFXIV. Even without ever having played WoW I can say that I never got the impression that the story was the selling point of that game (I've only read a few articles when new expansions launched and they never felt like you would absolutly need to play the game for its amazing story). With FFXIV thats different: a lot of people came here or are here mainly for the story. And those who arent... well, can either skip cutscenes or look for a different MMO that shifted its focus from the storytelling-aspect of the genre to something else.

Again, there’s just as much focus on the lore in other mmos. The developers just aren’t self absorbed and don’t force it on you. I suggest you actually play other mmos before trying to compare them with how much lore they have or how “focused” they are.

[Seraphor]

This isn't just an MMO though, it's a main series Final Fantasy game as well.