MSQ

[Nims]

If you do not play a themepark storybased MMO for its story then you should not really be paying the price of admission, that is just a waste of money.

I really wish people would stop with this "iTs A sToRy BaSeD mMmOoOOOO" yeah so are ALL MMOS They're mmoRPGS, every single one has lore, every single one has a reason for why you're doing whatever it is you're doing. Have you people never played any other mmo?

Also people may not openly complain when someone does small pulls but in voice comms and irl, a lot of people do.

[Mahoukenshi]

I really wish people would stop with this "iTs A sToRy BaSeD mMmOoOOOO" yeah so are ALL MMOS They're mmoRPGS, every single one has lore, every single one has a reason for why you're doing whatever it is you're doing. Have you people never played any other mmo?

Also people may not openly complain when someone does small pulls but in voice comms and irl, a lot of people do.

Some MMOs are focusing more on the story than others, like GW2, SWTOR and FF XIV. I cannot speak for WoW anymore (only did quests and levled alts till Cata), but all of the "deeper"/more interesting story was gated behind raids, unless you count WotLK and Cata for introducing phasing and mini-storys per quest hub.

[Nims]

Some MMOs are focusing more on the story than others, like GW2, SWTOR and FF XIV. I cannot speak for WoW anymore (only did quests and levled alts till Cata), but all of the "deeper"/more interesting story was gated behind raids, unless you count WotLK and Cata for introducing phasing and mini-storys per quest hub.

No, they're all equally as focused on story as the next one. Some have more lore than each other but they're all just as focused. Regardless of where the lore is, doesn't mean it's not "story focused". I don't know why but that line just triggers me so much. People keep saying it like it actually makes sense, it's just redundant "A story based mmorpg" since when aren't rpgs story based/focused?

[Hazama999]

No, they're all equally as focused on story as the next one. Some have more lore than each other but they're all just as focused. Regardless of where the lore is, doesn't mean it's not "story focused". I don't know why but that line just triggers me so much. People keep saying it like it actually makes sense, it's just redundant "A story based mmorpg" since when aren't rpgs story based/focused?

I guess a better way to word it would be "the story isn't utter trash as is the case on other MMOs."

[Fayt1203]

I really wish people would stop with this "iTs A sToRy BaSeD mMmOoOOOO" yeah so are ALL MMOS They're mmoRPGS, every single one has lore, every single one has a reason for why you're doing whatever it is you're doing. Have you people never played any other mmo?

Also people may not openly complain when someone does small pulls but in voice comms and irl, a lot of people do.

what people usually means (or could mean i cant speak for others) when they say it´is story driven game is that nothing unlocks unless u go through the main Msq, unlike how wow was (cant say how it is today been long time since i played it) u could do everything without doing nearly any quest´s. and while wow has story and lore it was more heavier on lore then story in my opinion and the story was more center what was happening in the world and not that much around your character while its the other way around with Ffxiv.

but that it's just my opinion on it

[Skivvy]

If you do not play a themepark storybased MMO for its story then you should not really be paying the price of admission, that is just a waste of money.

We have quite a few theme parks around where I live, and each park has certain rides and attractions I avoid at all costs as I don't care for them. However, I've never felt that I'm not getting my money's worth when I go because they have so many other things that DO appeal to me.

[Nims]

But thats what people mean by saying this is a story-focused MMO: That the story is the center piece of this particular game. I actually havent played other MMOs but from the impressions I've gathered (and from what your post right here implies) some other games - like WoW - might also have a story and lore, but not everything tied as close to it as we have in FFXIV.

Final Fantasy games have traditionally been games with a heavy story-focus that included you sitting through 30 minute cutscenes at times without "playing" the game at all. Clearly thats not for everyone and thats fine! Its just that thats what you have to expect from a Final Fantasy game - an involved story thats "forced" on you, with lots of cutscenes and dialouge and less of a "here is your endgame, now start playing the game".
I dont think people deny that other MMOs have a story and/or lore - its just not as much a focus as it is in FFXIV. Even without ever having played WoW I can say that I never got the impression that the story was the selling point of that game (I've only read a few articles when new expansions launched and they never felt like you would absolutly need to play the game for its amazing story). With FFXIV thats different: a lot of people came here or are here mainly for the story. And those who arent... well, can either skip cutscenes or look for a different MMO that shifted its focus from the storytelling-aspect of the genre to something else.

Again, there’s just as much focus on the lore in other mmos. The developers just aren’t self absorbed and don’t force it on you. I suggest you actually play other mmos before trying to compare them with how much lore they have or how “focused” they are.

[Krotoan]

Again, there’s just as much focus on the lore in other mmos. The developers just aren’t self absorbed and don’t force it on you.

.. so.. other MMO's are also about the story but.. they don't make you watch the story.

I think this is the point that Vidu is trying to make. FFXIV is so much about the story that you HAVE to watch it to get anywhere in the game.

[Vidu]

Again, there’s just as much focus on the lore in other mmos. The developers just aren’t self absorbed and don’t force it on you. I suggest you actually play other mmos before trying to compare them with how much lore they have or how “focused” they are.

I'm sorry if I worded my post badly, but to me it seems like you missed my point - you're still using this negative expression about the story/lore being "forced on you" when you talk about the story. I can only assume that what you mean by that includes things like the heavy story-locks we have and maybe even that lore is expanded on during the MSQ (and not just hidden in the lorebooks or similar).
But here is the thing: thats what Final Fantasy is about. Its mainly about being told a story, so its no surprise that this MMO is also saying "Hey, great you're here to listen to this epic story I want to tell you!"

I'm not trying to compare how much lore this game has to others (as in quantity or quality), I'm just trying to compare how much of a "spotlight" the game shines on its lore. By your account, FFXIV does this more (and going by your expression to much for your taste) than others - but thats excatly what some people want! They want all this lore and story presented to them while going through the game. They want it "forced" on them, because it doesnt feel forced to them.
I'm here because I want to enjoy a Final Fantasy story, so it doesnt feel forced onto me because thats what I want from this game. And I'm happy that everything is strongly connected to this mainstory. I'm happy that when I visit a dungeon I know excatly why I'm at this place right now, what history it has and what role it plays for the current story because I was told all that by an NPC in a bunch of textboxes giving me that background instead of just telling me "Go get item X out of the dungeon".

Focussing on getting the story and lore across to the player is what Final Fantasy does - I'm sorry if it feels to you as if its being forced onto you. You seem to prefer to just have the lore somewhat in the game without it being presented to you in a clear way while you play through the story? Thats okay, it appears there are many games who do that just fine! But Final Fantasy isnt that. Its always been about "shoving the story in your face" - and thats what people like and mean whan they say this game has a story-focus. You can like that or not, but please understand that people who say dont mean that there is no lore/story at all in other games. They're just saying they prefer the way its presented to them in FFXIV. By them being "forced" to see and play through it.

[Seraphor]

This isn't just an MMO though, it's a main series Final Fantasy game as well.