I don't like using flourish on dancer

[Dogempire]

As much as I love proccing every single skill it's a pain to have to move into melee range for rising windmill and bloodshower. For a ranged dps you have to stay awfully close to the boss just to land some of your skills.

It would honestly be nice if Flourish gave enhanced versions of the aforementioned skills that have increased range and damage (15y would be nice since it's the same as the dances.)

[Kidria]

Honestly DNC're like the RDM of the physical range role and are more of a mid-range than full range. I guess that's why you get 3 stacks of your dash skill; dash in, do moves, dash out. It makes the job feel faster and busy honestly, altho the GCD kinda kills the Flourish feel to me. I'd rather Flourish made your procs have the same GCD as your step motions during it's duration, kinda like how Rapid Fire worked on old MCH.

[Dogempire]

Honestly DNC're like the RDM of the physical range role and are more of a mid-range than full range. I guess that's why you get 3 stacks of your dash skill; dash in, do moves, dash out. It makes the job feel faster and busy honestly, altho the GCD kinda kills the Flourish feel to me. I'd rather Flourish made your procs have the same GCD as your step motions during it's duration, kinda like how Rapid Fire worked on old MCH.

Honestly I would have no problem going into melee range for rising windmill and bloodshower except the skills are only better than your typical 1 2 ranged combo because of the proc chance, which in itself doesn't seem rewarding. RDM has a 1200 potency finisher for the melee combo where all you get for stepping into melee range is a CHANCE to get a 150 potency ogcd which has a chance to give you a 200 potency ogcd.

Albeit I haven't leveled to 80 yet and I'll probably get used to it, but it definitely doesn't feel rewarding to get procs considering the abysmal potency

[Kidria]

Honestly I would have no problem going into melee range for rising windmill and bloodshower except the skills are only better than your typical 1 2 ranged combo because of the proc chance, which in itself doesn't seem rewarding. RDM has a 1200 potency finisher for the melee combo where all you get for stepping into melee range is a CHANCE to get a 150 potency ogcd which has a chance to give you a 200 potency ogcd.

Albeit I haven't leveled to 80 yet and I'll probably get used to it, but it definitely doesn't feel rewarding to get procs considering the abysmal potency

The procs kill me on Flourish sometimes (I've had times where throughout a fight I'd get absolutely no feathers and used Flourish at least 3 times) but the comparison wasn't so much the attacks and pots as it was more the playstyle--quick in and out of range 'feel' compared to others of their respective role.

In terms of the actual technical aspect, Flourish is still kinda clunky in a way, but I can see how it fits with the 'playstyle' they go for. I doubt they'll do a damage increase on it, but maybe dance-range or smaller gcd would be nice and feel more 'in pace' with the rest.

I'm not 80 either though (will be in maybe an hour if I quit getting distracted) but there isn't much Improv will do to this sort of thing, really.

[HyoMinPark]

Honestly DNC're like the RDM of the physical range role and are more of a mid-range than full range. I guess that's why you get 3 stacks of your dash skill; dash in, do moves, dash out. It makes the job feel faster and busy honestly, altho the GCD kinda kills the Flourish feel to me. I'd rather Flourish made your procs have the same GCD as your step motions during it's duration, kinda like how Rapid Fire worked on old MCH.

A 1s GCD for the procs would be awful, because a DNC's Flourished procs also grant Feathers. You need to be able to weave a feather between the procs if you hit 4 to prevent overcapping; which, weaving with an 1.5s GCD on MCH was already a pain in the butt at higher latencies (and still is). I'd rather not see it introduced to another job. The 1s for steps works because you aren't able to weave anything between them - this wouldn't work in practice with Flourished skills.

[Sathona]

I'd rather Flourish made your procs have the same GCD as your step motions during it's duration, kinda like how Rapid Fire worked on old MCH.

THIS!
This would make it more fun and interesting~Legit the only reason i hate Flourish is cause im a sitting duck at the boss to use the AoEs id rather use em instantly and back off

[Irohma]

I enjoy that part =/. It make us move around more and it has an incentive. You can always just move away after spending these procs and return to throwing your chakrams. Also, when you use the Finishing dances you need to get close too, so it seems this flow of moving in and out is part of what it is be a dancer. Those who enjoy staying put in the distance have a lot of options (BLM, BRD and MCH).

[Faythe]

I enjoy that part =/. It make us move around more and it has an incentive. You can always just move away after spending these procs and return to throwing your chakrams. Also, when you use the Finishing dances you need to get close too, so it seems this flow of moving in and out is part of what it is be a dancer. Those who enjoy staying put in the distance have a lot of options (BLM, BRD and MCH).

Also, you don't actually have to be *too* close to do finishes. It's a 15yalm around you. So it's more mid-range than up and personal with the boss. Don't have to be within melee range for it to actually hit.

[Kabooa]

250 beats 200 (your basic range spammer) and 300 beats 250 (your basic ranged combo).

[Dogempire]

250 beats 200 (your basic range spammer) and 300 beats 250 (your basic ranged combo).

I can read potencies, that isn't what the thread is about