Thread: Tank comparison at 5.0?

Personally, I'm up in the air about maining WAR or PLD. Kind of waiting until I see changes next week, but really it comes down to a decision on if I want a more strictly rotational job (PLD) or more of a priority job (WAR). Leaning WAR, but not completely decided yet.

Originally Posted by Absimiliard

The math I speak of would be the numbers the theorycrafting and high-end raiding communities came up with. They are the ones that have been (and still are) conducting the testing various individuals have spoken of. Their findings are publicly available, though it does seem quite a few people have chosen to ignore said findings in favor of acting like the sky is falling. You are correct in your assertion that DRK is not in a terrible place; it will perform adequately in all tiers of play, though it may not be ideal. Meta-clinging-behavior notwithstanding, DRK is perfectly applicable in most situations. It's functional enough that even some of the more progression-minded players will, as in times past, probably continue to play it despite the fact that its performance is slightly below that of its peers.

Despite the naysayers on the forums, it seems like the current playstyle itself is being fairly universally enjoyed. I myself really don't mind it. What I do mind is the knowledge that I and others whose groups (whether they're actually capable of it or not) like to chase the proverbial bleeding edge when it comes to PvE content are already being told that, due to this slight numbers discrepancy, we will be benched if we don't agree to main one of the other tank options. Is this right? No, probably not. That 200 DPS really doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things, and the comparative lack of utility can be partially compensated for by clever individuals. It would be much easier to justify the continued use of DRK if they were to bump its DPS a bit. As it lacks in utility and self-sustain, it's only right to compensate it in some other area.

You're argument is making even less sense now. Who do you think is posting those numbers that show DRK is only #2 in damage? People that log in and do dailies a couple times a week?

No. It's players chasing your "bleeding edge" of PvE content in this game.

I can't speak balance wise, I have GNB and DRK at 70 and PLD at 76 which I am currently leveling.

But gameplay-wise at this point at least.
Atonement for PLD sucks imo, it's very boring. It doesn't look or feel good to use, the usual 123 Royal Authority combo looks and feels way better imo. It's kind of a bummer imo, feeling as if things got less fun with a new ability is never good.
Everything else tho is great, but I just dinged 76 and when I started using Atonement I just felt '' meh ''.

DRK feels slow imo and as if there's not much going on.
It doesn't feel as varied as the rest imo, I want to love it but I sorta feel like I get bored with it really fast. And I don't see how that would change at higher levels really, maybe a bit more fun in AoE I guess?
It just feels very '' floaty '', as if I am going through this unimpactful monotonous thing.

GNB I am disappointed with continuation.
Maybe because people hyped it up so much and talked about how amazing it was, but it's honestly not that fun imo. And I don't like the new sound effects :/.

War I have no clue, maybe I'll level it too and give it a chance again.

Overall tho PLD is the most fun imo, but when I dinged 76 and got Atonement I felt like the ability made things feel more monotonous.

Originally Posted by Absimiliard

Then why are they posting inaccurate numbers? If the individuals posting these numbers are these "bleeding edge" raiders you claim to be (which a quick examination shows that they aren't), it comes off as a disingenuous attempt at sabotaging DRK by redirecting attention away from the numbers the average player will be able to produce. Jobs aren't balanced around the top 10% of players most of the time, which is what people keep saying.

The thing is, you can't buff the average player without also buffing the top end players. So no. What's disingenuous is masquerading your claim as something it is not. DRK has already proven it has the potential to be 2nd highest damage tank, so you might as well drop the facade and say you want DRK to be #1 in damage.