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    Alise's Avatar
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    Tank comparison at 5.0?

    Hi, I haven't played this for about a year before, but before that I used to try all tanks. I want to know how they are comparison now?



    Does it still be that Pld always MT and WAR always ST and has highest DPS, while DRK is kidda at middle for both? Or does it change now? How does the Gunblade come in?
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    Just fyi, PLD was never always the main tank, at least maybe not since ARR. WAR doesnt have the highest dps thats gnb.

    Nowadays all tanks can main tank as well as each other, damage goes GNB, PLD, WAR, DRK. Then its just a toss up utilily, PLD has strong party support, as does WAR, DRK has the best personal mitigation outside of invul skills. Honestly the beat advice is try them out and play what you like most
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    All the tanks are pretty similar right now. GNB currently highest damage tank, DRK had a fairly major rework so it's a bit different than it used to be, PLD's kit has evolved in a good way, and WAR plays about the same as it always has.
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    all tanks are in a pretty good spot right now
    just pick what interest you the most
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    As for gameplay:

    GNB: Feels like a DPS with some tank abilities. Highest damage simplest rotation.
    WAR: Pretty much the same as Stormblood. Best sustainability, high satisfaction.
    PLD: Also feels similar to SB, the choice to either dps or defend is there more so than the rest of the tanks. Best mitigation and can heal.
    DRK: Way more simple now, dark arts is no longer an active thing. Resource management remains. Worst at everything lol but the cool factor remains.

    Arguably its easier for WAR and PLD to MT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by armandojc3 View Post
    As for gameplay:

    GNB: Feels like a DPS with some tank abilities. Highest damage simplest rotation.
    WAR: Pretty much the same as Stormblood. Best sustainability, high satisfaction.
    PLD: Also feels similar to SB, the choice to either dps or defend is there more so than the rest of the tanks. Best mitigation and can heal.
    DRK: Way more simple now, dark arts is no longer an active thing. Resource management remains. Worst at everything lol but the cool factor remains.

    Arguably its easier for WAR and PLD to MT.

    Oh, I thought Dark Knight supposed to be the best this time around? the game is about WoD and all lol?



    I usually main Pld, because I feel that it is what a tank supposed to be, but I want to prepare another tank who goes better on dps, because Pld is kidda slow feeling. I am considering between Gunblade and Dark Knight. Dark knight shadow clone look cool, but I wonder how whether it actually useful in game play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    Oh, I thought Dark Knight supposed to be the best this time around? the game is about WoD and all lol?



    I usually main Pld, because I feel that it is what a tank supposed to be, but I want to prepare another tank who goes better on dps, because Pld is kidda slow feeling. I am considering between Gunblade and Dark Knight. Dark knight shadow clone look cool, but I wonder how whether it actually useful in game play?
    I thought so too lol. Being the worst doesnt mean its bad in this case, others are better thats all. Any party will welcome any tank.

    I chose DRK for the main story to role play the WoD thingy. Plus being a Tank guarantees the fastest progression with the instant queues and self sustain.
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    roughly all the tanks are nearly equal in what they can accomplish in content, with small exceptions such as;
    DRK can only mitigate raid wide dmg for the party if its magical. (which im fairly sure all unavoidable aoes, that kill party members, ios magical)
    and WAR is the only tank who's DPS is increased when MTing. (but by an extremely small amount.)

    instead, you pick the job based on your personal preference.

    GNB for the highest APM.
    DRK is 2nd highest, with an extremely simplistic 123 rotation. (you can also just stright up ignore TBN, and spam all of ur MP away. Which is why DRK kept its magical dmg only mitigation skills, otherwise DRKs would be lazy and do as i just suggested about TBN)
    WAR is the lowest APM, but has more variety of CDs to use.
    PLD is more about its longer rotation. 123, 124, 555 (some of its mitigation is tied to losing GCDs, but even so, w/o the ones that hurt the GCD, like clemency, and the wings, it can currently handle just about anything anyways.)

    all of them have other skills to work with, but trying to think of a way to explain them as simplistically as possible, while still pointing out differences, is kinda hard, so you'd have to look into them all in detail.

    EDIT:
    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    Dark knight shadow clone look cool, but I wonder how whether it actually useful in game play?
    Like all abilities, its just a DPS increase (its a DoT with a flashy animation, like pets)
    Tanks are even more DPS with mitigation, than they were in SB. (depending on how you see it.)
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    Last edited by MaraD_; 07-26-2019 at 12:11 AM.

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    I'm still leveling them and I suppose it'll improve when I get nascent flash, but WAR feels really squishy for me atm compared do DRK. I'm much more scared of pulling 2-3 packs than with DRK >:c
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    The tanks currently appear to be pretty well balanced in both offense and defense and can provide support both to the party and specifically to a co-tank. A specific design philosophy for Tanks in Shadowbringers was that all four of them would be able to perform well as both the main and off tank, so any combo can probably accomplish anything in an 8-man. Those sitting at rank 3 and 4 are only there because someone has to be, not because they're anywhere far from being good.
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