What’s looking like the meta?

[Sighearth]

Op seems to be kinda out of loop. PLD will be 100% meta, it has extra mitigation that other tanks doesnt, and its 2nd on dps just behind GNB so there is no discussion.
BLM,SAM and MCH can be very well meta bc the dps disparity in the respective roles ( with the exception of SAM bc monk is too close with utility). Ninja dps + trick contribution is not high right now
Healers: AST is in a super bad state, even with the cards factored in, its raid dps contribution is lower than sch that is lower than whm.

[TheRealQuah]

My prediction for Meta: It doesn't matter.
If you see any PF's locking certain spots because they want a meta comp, avoid them like the plague. Meta is for speed runners, and bad players who think that somehow having a meta comp will stop them from being incapable of doing the simplest mechanics.

Can I have some of what OP is smoking too? Their meta seems to be based on what's happening in normal Eden (?) and a drastic lack of understanding about current class balance and rDPS contribution.

Plus any speculation is completely irrelevant when several job changes are coming on Tuesday.

[Makeda]

I believe the current meta is to bring

3 Miqote
2 Au’ra
2 Viera
And a Lala

[Kacho_Nacho]

I believe the current meta is to bring

3 Miqote
2 Au’ra
2 Viera
And a Lala

The lalafell is especially important as it improves the morale of the party.

[Xatsh]

The lalafell is especially important as it improves the morale of the party.

This seems about accurate. And yes you need at least 1 lala in every party to balance it, bonus points if the lala is a tank.

[kazzel120]

Your GNB vs DRK comparisons you have a couple things wrong with IMO.

As a person who mains DRK and GNB saying TBN isnt as good as heart of stone what? TBN is not only a damage shield but also adds in a bonus edge of shadow. You also left out Shadow wall and delerium for DRK.

I love both of these jobs but GNB is a much better off tank hands down. DRK is more main tank.

As of now though we don't know what's meta. Or how hard some tank busters are going to hit. So PLD or DRK might be the better main tanks the a GNB because on GNB I definatly notice a diference on tank busters vs DRK.

Oh and as for bolide vs living dead..... bolide is what 8 seconds? Server ticks can kill you because it dumps hp to 1 before invuln kicks in. Where are LD is a 10 second window where if within that 10 seconds you drop below 1 hp you then gain 10 seconds of not dying. Down side after those 10 seconds if not cured to full you die.

[GeminiXIV]

Your GNB vs DRK comparisons you have a couple things wrong with IMO.

As a person who mains DRK and GNB saying TBN isnt as good as heart of stone what? TBN is not only a damage shield but also adds in a bonus edge of shadow. You also left out Shadow wall and delerium for DRK.

I love both of these jobs but GNB is a much better off tank hands down. DRK is more main tank.

As of now though we don't know what's meta. Or how hard some tank busters are going to hit. So PLD or DRK might be the better main tanks the a GNB because on GNB I definatly notice a diference on tank busters vs DRK.

Oh and as for bolide vs living dead..... bolide is what 8 seconds? Server ticks can kill you because it dumps hp to 1 before invuln kicks in. Where are LD is a 10 second window where if within that 10 seconds you drop below 1 hp you then gain 10 seconds of not dying. Down side after those 10 seconds if not cured to full you die.

How are they better?

TBN isnt as good as Heart of Stone because its a 500 potency gamble that cost resources while the other is completely free. Extra mitigation doesnt make the CD better especially if you dont need it. Also if the shield breaks you dont gain anything. Its neutral. The MP you spent on TBN could have just been used for EoS.

Living Dead is worst because you have to be fully healed or you die. Superbolide can be healed to any percentage with no risk.

[Cabalabob]

As a person who mains DRK and GNB saying TBN isnt as good as heart of stone what? TBN is not only a damage shield but also adds in a bonus edge of shadow. You also left out Shadow wall and delerium for DRK.

Oh and as for bolide vs living dead..... bolide is what 8 seconds? Server ticks can kill you because it dumps hp to 1 before invuln kicks in. Where are LD is a 10 second window where if within that 10 seconds you drop below 1 hp you then gain 10 seconds of not dying. Down side after those 10 seconds if not cured to full you die.

TBN doesn’t add a BONUS edge of shadow, it refunds its own cost through an edge of shadow and only if it is fully consumed. If it’s not entirely used then it COST you an edge of shadow. Meaning if the enemy isn’t going to be doing about 20k damage to your target in the next 7 seconds you shouldn’t TBN them where a GNB can use heart of stone for no cost.

I didn’t leave out shadow wall, it’s exactly the same as nebula so I omitted it and delirium doesn’t add anything other than damage so it wasn’t worth mentioning.

The key difference between living dead and superbolide is the amount of resources it takes to recover from it. Superbolide like holmgang only requires as much healing as the healers feel is necessary to keep the tank alive. Living dead requires the DRKs entire hp pool be recovered which can massively drain the resources of the healers to top them off when none of the other tanks invulns would have required that much healing.

[PondHollow]

Dream comp is 1 Hrothgar, 1 scanty Roe bro, 2 Catboys, 2 Dragon dudes, 1 well-dressed twinklander and 1 daddylander.

[grinkdaboy]

i don't understand the obsession behind numbers. japanese meta is: "play what you want but be good at it"