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    Rivxkobe's Avatar
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    Carmine Altair
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    Zalera
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Raltar View Post
    Actually, the exp reward is there to get people to queue for MSQ. Because if they didn't give the exp, I would never do them ever(as would most people) meaning it would be harder for new people to complete their MSQ.
    And the no cutscene skip was added because new players couldn't watch the scenes if they decided too.
    And with the no cutscene skip came an increase to the EXP reward from MSQ. It was always high but they increased it.
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    Level 80: SAM | SCH | PLD | DNC

    Leveling: AST | WAR | MCH

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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Atomos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhus View Post
    If they did you can get reards would be cut to compensate. Lvl 70 gets you 350k xp from the kojin for example (or near enough) so doing them and ananta gets you about 2.1m xp, if they were to allow you to get 4.2m from doing 4 sets ..well you’d probably not get 4.2m. They’d probably half it so you still got 2.1m but for all 12 allowances instead of the current 6 it would take.

    Similar to praetorium, had a run today where people discussed getting cutscenes back, they also thought they’d keep the 11m xp I got though which wouldn’t happen if we could skip again. The xp is the reward for the time spent or limited nature of the task. you can’t keep one and change another, there needs to be a balance. Did People not learn anything from Thanos?
    Increasing the number of allowances wouldn't allow you to do more Ananta or more Kojin quests. You'd still be limited to 3 each. And the HW BT quests don't give enough XP to matter if they let you do 3 from each of them as well.
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    Fenrir As'hall
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhus View Post
    If they did you can get reards would be cut to compensate. Lvl 70 gets you 350k xp from the kojin for example (or near enough) so doing them and ananta gets you about 2.1m xp, if they were to allow you to get 4.2m from doing 4 sets ..well you’d probably not get 4.2m. They’d probably half it so you still got 2.1m but for all 12 allowances instead of the current 6 it would take.

    Similar to praetorium, had a run today where people discussed getting cutscenes back, they also thought they’d keep the 11m xp I got though which wouldn’t happen if we could skip again. The xp is the reward for the time spent or limited nature of the task. you can’t keep one and change another, there needs to be a balance. Did People not learn anything from Thanos?
    So you pulled all of that right out of your hair, didn't you?

    Why do you think the XP Bonus is "reward for time spent" ? Wouldn't that mean that my XP in a dungeon would increase if we wipe or go AFK? Because, well, we spent more time? It's absolute horse.
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    DragonFlyy's Avatar
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    Jasla Angelkin
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BatLW View Post
    So you pulled all of that right out of your hair, didn't you?

    Why do you think the XP Bonus is "reward for time spent" ? Wouldn't that mean that my XP in a dungeon would increase if we wipe or go AFK? Because, well, we spent more time? It's absolute horse.
    No it isn't. When they forced the cutscenes they increased the XP reward.
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    Hezz Ackerman
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    Ravana
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BatLW View Post
    So you pulled all of that right out of your hair, didn't you?

    Why do you think the XP Bonus is "reward for time spent" ? Wouldn't that mean that my XP in a dungeon would increase if we wipe or go AFK? Because, well, we spent more time? It's absolute horse.
    Because most dungeons, ran as fast as you can go, are often done somewhere within the 10 to 20 minute vicinity. Average time? About 20-25 minutes, and that might actually be a little on the long side. Praetorium, skipping all the cutscenes, could be done in about 15-20 minutes. Now that you can't skip cutscenes, it takes close to an hour. So yes, they upped the rewards because the average time for completion skyrocketed.
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    Ranhansha's Avatar
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    Ranhansha Ootsuki
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    Ragnarok
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I think the exp they give should be similar to the Shadowbringers' system or significantly boost the reputation points they give you. Allowances are not that bad since you can still do 4 of them every day, but I lack the motivation when you only get a mount after all the work.
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    I think the best middle ground would be to add a new allowance that is only usable while you are building up reputation. Basically have the 12 we have now on top of another 3 per expansion to help speed up the process. This would give you 24 in total however that additional 9 would only be applicable if you are able to gain reputation from completing the quest.
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    Coeurl
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    Paladin Lv 90
    If they did you can get reards would be cut to compensate. Lvl 70 gets you 350k xp from the kojin for example (or near enough) so doing them and ananta gets you about 2.1m xp, if they were to allow you to get 4.2m from doing 4 sets ..well you’d probably not get 4.2m. They’d probably half it so you still got 2.1m but for all 12 allowances instead of the current 6 it would take.
    The only time you can do more than 3 of each of those is when you rank up.

    This would let you do, say, the 2 relevant ones and a bunch of old ones which dont give meaningful XP but still give rep, as a way for people to catch up on the 11 (14 by the end of this expansion) beast tribes out there.
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    I agree with you OP. There are so many beast tribes right now that it makes this hard to do with that low of allowances for someone that is new.

    Maybe a compromise could be made and only the newest ones use allowances and the rest is just restricted by the amount of quest each one has.
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    Hezz Ackerman
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    Ravana
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    Machinist Lv 90
    I'm honestly not sure why you're considering it hard to do. I mean, like I said before, I'm not against the idea purely on an Ixal/Moogle/Namazu crafter leveling point of view, but I've only just been getting into repping up all the Beast Tribes on this character, and, well, it *isn't* hard, just time consuming. You can focus on 2 ARR tribes at a time, or up to 4 HW/SB tribes at a time. Knock them out, move on to the next.
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