Living Shadow

[LegolasT]

Uhhhh... click on your own link. DRK is the last among tanks there as well. Are you sure you are reading it right? Only jobs -below- DRK are SCH, WHM and AST.
Now, you mentioned 99th percentile so here's 99th as well. Guess what - DRK is on the bottom among tanks here too.

Bro are you blind?? MAX MAX MAX

[LegolasT]

Uhhhh... click on your own link. DRK is the last among tanks there as well. Are you sure you are reading it right? Only jobs -below- DRK are SCH, WHM and AST.
Now, you mentioned 99th percentile so here's 99th as well. Guess what - DRK is on the bottom among tanks here too.

I have been mentioning MAX the entire time I just said there are 2 levels above 95th bro reading is fundemental I shouldnt even have to say all that there is a MAX column on every parce level that tell the MAXIMUM DPS PARCE of the job bro. Read man wow! Hense why I said you proved my point because on you links next to the current percentile parce score either the third or fourth column is the MAX score that's the score I have been referring to idk if you purposely overlooking that but it isn't that hard to look at!

[Shirokami]

Eh, fine, max is higher. So? Someone outplayed a warrior with perhaps few ilvl more in a specific group setting. 0.01% of playerbase is hardly something that proves a point or something that a game should be balanced around, especially when in 99.99% cases DRK is - as seen on the chart above - the last.

[MaraD_]

Eh, fine, max is higher. So? Someone outplayed a warrior with perhaps few ilvl more in a specific group setting. 0.01% of playerbase is hardly something that proves a point or something that a game should be balanced around, especially when in 99.99% cases DRK is - as seen on the chart above - the last.

the difference with MAX is sometimes multiple hundreds of DPS higher, and in the "average" its also multiples of hundreds.
(100-700)

all tanks get their share of padding.
So the best padded WAR vs the best padded DRK, and so forth.
looking at average DPS is good, but sometimes players just mess up, or dont know of certain basics built into a job.
(Like the number of RDMs who think you were supposed to manafication at 40/40 mana, which is actually wrong, but most play that way, even floor 4 clearing RDMs)
If its just players not knowing how to play right, you dont adjust a job to do more DPS, when it can in theory, out dps everyone else already.
(once they learn the proper ways to do something, they will go beyond broken. of course, this is only if they just arent playing correctly originally.)

[LegolasT]

Eh, fine, max is higher. So? Someone outplayed a warrior with perhaps few ilvl more in a specific group setting. 0.01% of playerbase is hardly something that proves a point or something that a game should be balanced around, especially when in 99.99% cases DRK is - as seen on the chart above - the last.

Bro you don't know if it's a few lvl higher or if it the top .01% even for the other tanks. what it proves from what I been saying from the start that people are starting to get a better grasp of the job about a month from launch. 99th isn't max bro MAX is MAX that is the top teir plain and simple that's what every player analyzes not 99th it's MAX. Players shoot for max DPS parces since it shows you how far the job can be pushed. I advise you explore the logs some more and get equiped with every catagory!

[Shirokami]

Max of the max of the max. Yes, I get it. Again, that means very little, as what is relevant for statistics is the average - not 5 players that achieve the impossible, but millions that don't. (five and millions - a figure of speech, before someone attempts to claim that I literally think only five DRKs outdpsed WARs)

[Kreyd]

I think it would be cool if Living Shadow would be our 90sec burst phase instead of Delirium, where LS fights along us, and our combos and Bloodspiller/Dilirium are changed to more powerful versions (imagine it like SB MCH when the HG was between 50 and 100)

Would move DRK further away from WAR.

[LegolasT]

That just proves the point I put out in another forum post in the past. DRK has alot of DPS even with current potency but it's the easiest rotation to mess up while PLD and GNB are the easiest tanks period. Again we don't know if that's the top 5 but that's the data SE looks at they don't make jobs for average players like you or me it's for the hardcore players that stay for hard content and maximizing there jobs. And no DRK isn't just out parcing just WAR it out parcing PLD as well.

[ProfGuard]

While we're on it, let's please have the 50 Blood gauge requirement removed.
2mins of CD is enough for a tank that already ranks last in DPS

[MaraD_]

Current DRKs are still testing how much dmg TBN can eat.
Current DRKs are still dying to LD, due to healers not handling it.
Current DRKs dont know the best way to fit bursts into raid burst windows.

So the "Average" is lowered by the sheer number of DRKs going through such issues.

Going by the Max, is going to show what the "Average" is eventually going to look more like, as time goes on.
If DRKs still suffer low average DPS in many months/years from now, THEN you'd want to make changes, but not to potency/DPS, but to make the rotations less punishing, and work with raid buffs better, etc.
Bringing the average up to the maximum, w/o raising the maximum.
Thats why asking for increased DPS, or calling DRK the lowest DPS is going to fail, and is misleading.