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  1. #1
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    cactuarzzzz's Avatar
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    Zzz' Zzz
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    Unicorn
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    Red Mage Lv 80

    Reminder for the Dev : SAM is not a melee caster

    Please make Tsubame-Gaeshi instant cast.
    Reason = Right now it is cumbersome especially in the Extreme Trials and AOE intensive dungeons.
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    Please make Tsubame-Gaeshi instant cast.
    Reason = Right now it is cumbersome especially in the Extreme Trials and AOE intensive dungeons.

    I don't see the problem with that Iaijutsu and Tsubame-gaeshi (Tsubame-gaeshi = Hissatsu: Kaiten + Iaijutsu), it's overpowering 36-> 56k, it shouldn't be overpowering either.

    Know the fight and use it wisely.

    We are already above everyone except BLM and up close.
    This cast time has never been a problem since SB, it's just a shot to take.
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    Carmine Altair
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    Zalera
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    Samurai Lv 80
    This would be great. The number of times I've had to cut off my cast or took a hit because I didn't want to delay my rotation by more than I already was going to is insane. Currently SAM already feels a little weak due to its pDPS not being much higher than (if not equal to) DRG while having no rDPS (unlike DRG) and having to constantly delay our rotation due to casts is just depressing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    We are already above everyone except BLM and up close.
    This cast time has never been a problem since SB, it's just a shot to take.
    2 things:

    First our pDPS is BARELY higher than DRG, and most of the time it is actually equal due to delays caused by AoEs and movement interrupting our casts.

    Secondly we had ONE casting ability in SB, we now have an additional that is used immediately after the first, which means we need 4-5 seconds of being able to stand still so we don't interrupt our cast and extend how long it will take before we can line everything up again. You know this, not sure why you think "knowing the fight" somehow addresses the issues a melee range caster faces in AoE and movement heavy fights.
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    Last edited by Rivxkobe; 07-23-2019 at 10:13 PM.
    Level 80: SAM | SCH | PLD | DNC

    Leveling: AST | WAR | MCH

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    Nora Origo
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    Please make Tsubame-Gaeshi instant cast.
    Reason = Right now it is cumbersome especially in the Extreme Trials and AOE intensive dungeons.
    there is no problem currently.
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    Pesto Lady
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    Tsubame-Gaeshi being instacast and not needing to be used immediately after the previous iajutsu would make Samurai feel a lot better for certain.
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Of all the problems Samurai has... this really isn't one of them. The lack of Sen management (Hagekure, we miss you) and Shoha being useless, Samurai's overall DPS being a little low are all much bigger priorities.
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    Ibkee Hakadosh
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Of all the problems Samurai has... this really isn't one of them. The lack of Sen management (Hagekure, we miss you) and Shoha being useless, Samurai's overall DPS being a little low are all much bigger priorities.
    Shoha being trash that many don't even waste a hotbar on and overall DPS being way too low for the lack of utility are bigger issues, but instant tsubame gaeshi would be a pretty nice buff all the same.
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    Kyssa Shay
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    Siren
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    Reaper Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    Please make Tsubame-Gaeshi instant cast.
    Reason = Right now it is cumbersome especially in the Extreme Trials and AOE intensive dungeons.
    So turn a unique melee class into just another generic melee class? No thanks.
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  9. #9
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalPesto View Post
    Tsubame-Gaeshi being instacast and not needing to be used immediately after the previous iajutsu would make Samurai feel a lot better for certain.
    Although be aware that Tsubame-Gaeshi is supposedly a real sword technique that's 3 nearly instantaneous strikes. So it's kind of lore that it would need to be used immediately after the previous iajutsu.
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Shoha is hilariously bad, as predicted. It makes up 0.5-0.8% of the top Samurai's overall damage, losing to Higanbana's initial hit and barely above Enpi. The majority of players can safely take it off their bars and not notice any real difference.
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