SCH or AST?

[heynowjose]

honestly anything but AST. Its just not as fun as it was and especially in 8 man stuff youre going to feel how much weaker your heals are and how unsatisfying your buffs are

[IchiExorz]

I don't really care about it being undertuned much. I don't plan to do difficult things as a healer.
I was more wondering why people are angry about the healers.
Sounds more like the issues are about balance and not much about their playstyles or being boring to play or anything.

[Sanghelios]

My advice would be just wait till next Tuesday, because then we will get the final changes to the jobs (those will last for a while then). Its almost certain that AST will get plenty of buffs/changes by then.

[IchiExorz]

My advice would be just wait till next Tuesday, because then we will get the final changes to the jobs (those will last for a while then). Its almost certain that AST will get plenty of buffs/changes by then.

Yeah i'd prob wait till i finish lvling my MCH. (in about a week i suppose.)
Still not decided which one i'll lvl yet.

I like the whole astrology theme & animations of AST but i love the combos you can do with SCH & Seraph looks cool.

[Evanoel]

OP, I wanna revise my advice. You should be SCH instead. Their healing potency is more awesome and fairy's embrace helps a lot.

[Saefinn]

I am curious. I'm seeing a lot of "SCH is fun" in this thread. I'm one who has been pretty vocal about disliking the changes made to SCH and I've not actually levelled it to 80 and with my enjoying AST on my alt more at 70 than I am SCH at 70 (I am hating SCH at 70). I am in a similar dilemma to the OP. So those who are enjoying Scholar, what about it at level 80 is making it fun? Why is it enjoyable for you? Not a leading question for a Scholar rant, I've swapped to the character I have tied to my forum account (my 80 is on a different character) and am weighing my options on what to take through Shadowbringers on it. I feel obliged to give Scholar a chance and I want to enjoy it because I had done so for years as my main.

[Brandedblade]

I am curious. I'm seeing a lot of "SCH is fun" in this thread. I'm one who has been pretty vocal about disliking the changes made to SCH and I've not actually levelled it to 80 and with my enjoying AST on my alt more at 70 than I am SCH at 70 (I am hating SCH at 70). I am in a similar dilemma to the OP. So those who are enjoying Scholar, what about it at level 80 is making it fun? Why is it enjoyable for you? Not a leading question for a Scholar rant, I've swapped to the character I have tied to my forum account (my 80 is on a different character) and am weighing my options on what to take through Shadowbringers on it. I feel obliged to give Scholar a chance and I want to enjoy it because I had done so for years as my main.

I've already explained myself in other posts. But for me I love the new scholar because to me, it feels fundamentally the same, just fewer buttons. I agree there are things that need to be tweaked and that having one or two of our old skills back wouldn't hurt. But it really doesn't feel all that different to me. It's not perfect but it does not feel anywhere as bad to me as alot of people seem to make it out to be.

I'll go off on a tangent myself and say that I like how ast feels currently, my issue with it is how weak divination feels for the work you have to do to optimize it and how weak their healing feels in comparison. Mechanically I like what they have now but number wise it feels to weak.

[Saefinn]

Feeling fundamentally the same is what I was worried about. My boredom with Scholar started in Stormblood. My favourite iteration of Scholar was 2.0 and I loved it. It was still fun in HW. In Stormblood I still enjoyed being able to weave in and out of healing & DPS with it, but healing on its own, not so interesting. I'd love an evolution of 2.0 SCH, but it has gone in a different direction to what I got out of it. With the new shields from Seraph, I was hoping more shields might shift the emphasis in ShB healer.

But your comments on AST, that falls in line with my impression too. The cards are still enjoyable, I like them too, in terms of how they feel to play as part of being an AST, but potencies and how they actually benefit the party are on the weak side. So I might find AST more engaging these days, even if it's behind the other healers, but I feel the others heal too well anyway. Though buffs to divination would be nice as a reward for the work you put in, as you say. And in addition to other tweaks & QoL needed.