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    SweetPete's Avatar
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    Princess- Princess
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    Coeurl
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    Alchemist Lv 100

    I don’t want energy drain back for Scholar

    Before everyone floods this post calling me a bad player or I don’t understand the job. Hear me out please. Energy drain is a summoner ability now. The likely hood of scholars getting that back is slim to none. Now, I do realize we need an aetherflow dump. Sitting on stacks is a waste and I, like many other scholar mains would like to utilize our aetherflow every minute without wasting precious stacks.

    How about an ability that does no damage and we don’t have to target an enemy to use it. I was thinking osmose/aspir/siphon. Either one of those abilities. Instead of giving us more button bloat. How about when we use aetherflow. The ability changes to the stack dump. Whether osmose/aspir/siphon. Once aetherflow comes off cd we press it and if we have stacks then it will be converted to either mana or the fey gauge. Meaning no more over healing just to get rid of stacks or just plain overwriting your stacks. I truly hope we get something like this. Also I wish they would of kept the support skills we had. Fey light/Fey Glow gone. Now Fey wind gone. I love the healing on scholar now don’t get me wrong. Just wish we still had our support skills too. Healers need more support skills.
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I'm not really sure what benefits a different direction with the ability like this would bring? I mean it goes with the 'mustn't DPS' mentality that's frequently seen but that's about it.

    Having a button be a dual function like that would be a neat way to cut down button clutter, but it also has the potential to be annoying to a button masher. Swings and roundabouts there.
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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPete View Post
    Before everyone floods this post calling me a bad player or I don’t understand the job. Hear me out please. Energy drain is a summoner ability now. The likely hood of scholars getting that back is slim to none. Now, I do realize we need an aetherflow dump. Sitting on stacks is a waste and I, like many other scholar mains would like to utilize our aetherflow every minute without wasting precious stacks.

    How about an ability that does no damage and we don’t have to target an enemy to use it. I was thinking osmose/aspir/siphon. Either one of those abilities. Instead of giving us more button bloat. How about when we use aetherflow. The ability changes to the stack dump. Whether osmose/aspir/siphon. Once aetherflow comes off cd we press it and if we have stacks then it will be converted to either mana or the fey gauge. Meaning no more over healing just to get rid of stacks or just plain overwriting your stacks. I truly hope we get something like this. Also I wish they would of kept the support skills we had. Fey light/Fey Glow gone. Now Fey wind gone. I love the healing on scholar now don’t get me wrong. Just wish we still had our support skills too. Healers need more support skills.
    The problem with the whole "convert unused stacks to fairy gauge/mp" is a better system than we have now, certainly, but its not the solution scholar needs. One of the biggest problems we have right is not enough to do, and that we're not interacting with our main mechanic, aetherflow, enough. Simply having it convert to mp/gauge would not fix that. What scholar needs is a dps use for aetherflow so we have choices we can make again, so we have this sense of risk vs reward. If we cant have energy drain back (which they could always change it back to what it was and just give SMN a trait to make it what it is now) then I would suggest giving us back miasma and then giving us fester.
    And while I definitely am okay with another support ability, even one that uses aetherflow, I think SE needs to remember scholar was unique in the first place because it has always been a dps/healer hybrid, it was never meant to be this pure healer they want to push so bad
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    Cruise Chaser
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 32
    Sure getting something like this would be a compromise I guess. It'd still be pretty annoying to use though, because you'd need to weave a lot with little pay-off from it. I would've been more in favor of this skill a few days ago when art of war was more expensive than it is right now. I'd still much prefer energy drain back. It may be a summoner skill, but they don't have to give it back to us in the same form. They could just rename it and give it sustain's (now unused) projectile and pretend it's a unique scholar skill for example. They did it with our new aoe skill art of war; it's a recycled pvp skill from heavensward. There's no reason they can't do the same thing again.
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    Kasumi Shirinami
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    What is even the point of a skill that just turns aetherflow into fairy gauge? I've seen this suggestion a lot and it just seems pointless. Just blow your extra stacks on lustrate if that's all you want. It'd be marginally more useful, in that it'd also heal incidental damage on someone while also giving you gauge. It's not like Emnity is an issue at all right now.

    They could just rename SCH's energy drain. it's not like SMN's is anything like SCH's used to be any more.

    Energy drain was your reward for optimising your oGCD usage so that you could save some stacks, or was otherwise a risk/reward tradeoff. If you're not getting something even halfway as beneficial as a lustrate/soil/excog that you would otherwise not get, and if it doesn't actually make you have to make a decision about whether or not it's the best option at a given point in time, then there's really no point in it.
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    The main issue with Aetherflow right now is that it is very difficult to use the stacks effectively. DPS is effective in pretty much any situation, which is why it would make sense to add an Aetherflow-based DPS ability to use the stacks on when healing isn't needed. This would also allow for more optimisation for the job which is severely missing right now. Your suggested solution would only add to the current problem (as it would just give us more things we really don't need to play more effectively, i.e. more MP and fairy gauge) instead of giving us something we can be more useful with.
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    Impurrrsive's Avatar
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    Coleo Softpaw
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    Masamune
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    Scholar Lv 80
    When i see the op, i tot " oo... This post going to get flame so bad"
    But hey... Somehow i do agree, convert the aetherflow to to some buff with mana restoration
    I don't think they will give us any dps skill, so at least this will stop the awkward lustrate
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    Jenny Davar
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    Weaver Lv 70
    Button bloat? My hotbars are so bare at the moment.
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    Avnus Vabruyt
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    Diabolos
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    I don't play sch but I can see the reason for not wanting to bring back ED since it promotes dps which SE wants healers to move away from so how about instead an ability that buffs an allie How about an all or nothing ability. 1 AF 5% dps boost to target for 10s, 2AF 20s, 3AF 30s, 60s cooldown. So you can use it just before AF comes off cooldown and you only get the full effect from it if for some reason you didn't have to use any AF on healing and it's single target not party wide so the it shouldn't be to op/mandatory.
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AvenoMatt View Post
    I don't play sch but I can see the reason for not wanting to bring back ED since it promotes dps which SE wants healers to move away from .
    Then they need to make healing itself more interesting. As is now you're not healing 80-90% of the time, so what else are we supposed to do? Suck our thumbs?
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    Last edited by Billythepancake; 07-18-2019 at 10:22 PM.

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