Crossover events and breaking immersion

[Nabril]

I'm with you there. It's always weird to see the car from Final Fantasy 15 as a mount. Like, why is that the only instance of a car in the game? The Monster Hunter themed dungeon was ok to me. If I didn't know better, I probably would've never guessed.

Oh but a giant whale soaring through the air as a mount is perfectly fine?

[Barachim]

My immersion is already broken when I see people dressed up as Chocobos, or wear bikinis into battle. Or a combination of both. No crossover event will ever be more immersion breaking than the fashion sense of some people. ='D

[TheMightyMollusk]

One of the first things I saw the first time I logged into the game was a Roe in a chocobo mask and a metallic speedo doing the Manderville on top of a lamppost. Immersion never had a chance.

[MikkoAkure]

I’ve been playing since 1.0 beta, am a super big lore nerd and have both of the books, and think that anyone complaining about aesthetics or crossovers needs to get over themselves.

Besides the fact that they completely changed the aesthetics from 1.0 to ARR, they’ve been doing wonky crossovers from the very beginning and this isn’t new. We had Cocoon machina-behemoths in Lightning’s crossover (long before they reused the models as “Allagan behemoths”), Dragon Quest golems, a giant taru taru, and Yokai Watch. This game is an MMO theme park and it was established back in year 1 of ARR with the Dragon Quest crossover that there will be non-FF crossovers.

We’re only 1 raid into NieR. There’s plenty of time for them to explain what’s going on later. And how are people angry about Noctis’ car or 2B when we also have Titan riding an ATV?

[Lambdafish]

I don't mind the immersion breaking until it enters the MSQ. I had a big issue with Ivalice being mentioned in the MSQ, and being a part of the world, and while the crystal tower has grown on me dramatically in shadowbringers considering it became its own thing very separate from FFIII, the original incarnation where Xande is the allagan emperor who tried to call on cloud of darkness left a bad taste in my mouth.

I hope Nier stays only semi canon and is never mentioned in the MSQ

[Iscah]

Oh but a giant whale soaring through the air as a mount is perfectly fine?

It is, actually.

It's not about plausibility, it's about whether this item feels like it belongs in a fantasy story. A flying whale seems more appropriate than a modern-looking car.

Even the more fantastic-looking Garlean devices (two-legged mecha, giant airships) seem more suited to the setting - although their buildings feel out of place to me, as does a lot of the later Allagan stuff like Azys Lla. (I know "ancient advanced civilisation" is a thing, but that doesn't mean I have to like their taste in architecture.)

[Theodric]

FFXIV has never been a strictly 'fantasy' setting, though.

It seems to be more a matter of personal preferences getting in the way of enjoyment of what the setting actually is.

[TheMightyMollusk]

It's a Fantasy Kitchen Sink setting with loads of Schizo Tech. Just roll with it.

[Valic]

Oh but a giant whale soaring through the air as a mount is perfectly fine?

Whales are kinda already a thing to see flying in most japanese games as is, so this is fine lol.

[Valic]

Yes raids like the crystal tower are fine because they are made to fit into the world and do tell their own stories. Ivalice was already on the edge for me because it was imo too much retelling and not much new stuff. Omega was even worse because it was just a tournament with pure fanservice bosses that they even did not explain at all.

Nier is from a whole different franchise (and company) with its own style. IMO right now it does not fit at all. Its like bringing pokemon in this. They could try and explain to us that they are from another dimension (like most of it is..) but it still make it jarring for me.

Incorrect, they did explain it. While I am with you on it being fan service bosses, Omega traveled across stars and dimensions and has been around for eons to listen to stories of powerful wizards and entities that should've ended the world and their tale's hero. He uses them specifically to gauge how strong the WoL is and how those heroes from those dimensions defeated their "big bad guy". He literally says he collected the information off it all and bases every fight off that information.

As for your problem with Neir, the most I can say is "get over it" because tbh... I've never played Neir and I feel like all of this feels just fine integrating into the game. Not only that but like the other comment, they haven't explained anything yet, so its kinda jumping the gun. We have mammets and magitek humanoids, mutants, so on.... It's not illogical to see mechanisms and humanoid looking robots in this game when we already see them plenty. I almost wanna say the only reason its distracting is if you know/played the games enough to relate it over the FFXIV setting. Personally I see the WoL looking at this thing like its the most alien thing he's seen yet, top it off we're already on another star that has lalafells being called dwarves.




Also, to anyone complaining about the Regula from FFXV still. I made you this.


Once they slap on monster faces or call it a mutant or something along the lines of fantasy, no one cries about it breaking their fantasy game. But a carriage with wheels in a world of magic and magitek engineering, FORBIDDEN. Ok. Ignore the mutant car/motorcycle because it's "a monster made from mutant science experimentation and fits in the lore" but stare in awe and cry at the "mechanical device that can transport people by using elementary functioinality such as wheels, friction, and a common motor just like most magitek devices do as is" AND HOW THIS TOTALLY DOESN'T BELONG AT ALL, YEAP. It's just that jarring clearly... Or perhaps you're just relating the other series over FFXIV far too much. I played FFV a bit, but as I did the event for the car, it was just me in the FFXIV world seeing a weird stranger bring weird things here that I had to kill and Cid happen to find a way to make the car he fixed up for the lad because he's literally a magitek engineer.