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  1. #81
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    DumdogsWorld's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by White_Wolf_X View Post
    I mean, to be fair, the OP has a point. Many people are turned off by the complete disregard this game shows for immersion at times. Some even refuse to play the game at all because of it.

    However, the real question should be this: should we care?

    I don't.
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  2. #82
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    but muh immersive roleplay reee
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    I hope this a joke. You're talking about crossover events breaking "immersion" when you have the Gold Saucer which is from FF7. You have various raids from other FF games such as FF8/FF Tactics and the Nier Raid, etc. But you only talk about crossover events. What.....Idk.
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  4. #84
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    I think that, at this current point of the game, it's better for the people who value immersion to come to terms that this will not be a thing at all, no matter how many times you make a case for it. Perhaps some of you of the immersion crowd finally made peace with that. Some of you made compromises and kept stretching your lines. So I guess this particular post is for the crowd that is still hanging on desperately onto the tiniest shred of hope that immersion will be restored at some point:

    It won't.

    I say this from a point of care: find another place for your immersion. No really. You will only aggravate yourselves into thinking "oh maybe in the future, they'll stop adding really out of this world stuff into the game".

    They won't. Save yourselves the time and agony and play another game that truly cares for immersion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    The Producer of the game stated that FFXIV is a theme park. I dont know how you can break immersion in a theme park by adding new themes.
    This. And besides, immersion varies from person to person. If you're trying to find an original, authentic experience here, this isn't really the right game for that. I can understand people's misgivings with certain cross-overs like Yokai Watch and Monster Hunter, but that's not really going to change unless the devs decide to take a new approach in the future.
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    If I die, forgive me. I used to be a Dragoon.

  6. #86
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    Ideally I'd much rather spend time on quests that expand on the existing FFXIV universe than bring content from other games that are like cramming a square peg into a circle hole. I'm not a fan of crossovers either, but as long as they find a way to make it work in the FFXIV universe I've come to accept them even though I've yet to experience one I cared about personally - Nier, FFXII, FFXV, Garo, Monster Hunter - I do not know about or care for these things, but the content was interesting and the rewards were nice.

    But for immersion specifically, quests outside of the MSQ go a bit off anyway sometimes - like what even is Hildibrand? He operates outside a lot of the game logic but it's fun and they made it work - it's the same with cross-overs, the difference is just that Hildi is home-brewed crazy while others are imported from other games crazy and NPCs having to deal with either just kinda accept that they're there for the ride.
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    *drives up in FF15 car in full frog suit*

    This new Nier crap is breaking my immersion. Not like that Ivalice event.
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    People in metallic bikinis and hot pink frog suits standing behind me in MSQ roulette do more to break my immersion than any crossover event ever has. And those are part of the base game. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    I hope this a joke. You're talking about crossover events breaking "immersion" when you have the Gold Saucer which is from FF7. You have various raids from other FF games such as FF8/FF Tactics and the Nier Raid, etc. But you only talk about crossover events. What.....Idk.
    That seems a bit disingenuous. One is reference. The other, crossover.

    Gold Saucer is a casino built by an entrepreneur established among XIV characters and hailing from a city which, from the beginning, has been the base of vastly wealthy businessmen. Someone who'd never played FF7 would have no reason to expect it wasn't side-content solely for XIV and coming solely from XIV.

    Leaving a giant city inside a hill that takes all of 12 seconds to fly over, using not a single established XIV character, is hardly the same thing.

    Cid is a reference. Most players will know that our Cid is one of many. But he's still distinctly XIV's Cid, who was built around XIV's world specifically.

    NieR is a crossover. It has no connection to XIV except in that it was tossed in there, with only the narrowest excuse of preceding plot -- we see hole, we go down hole, we see 2B butt, we follow 2B butt, something, something, city inside hole inside hill far smaller than said city.
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    Purgatori Sakkara
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    I'm not going to rage over it or anything, but I felt that the FFXV crossover event was a bit on the nose, and I actually skipped out on getting the mount because I knew I'd never use it due to the aesthetic not matching the rest of the game (I'm someone who will use artefact gear glamours all the time, rather than funny or novel outfits). I don't feel this way at all about the Nier crossover, though; it feels like a synthesis between FFXIV and Nier, rather than a clumsy grafting of the latter onto the former.
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    Last edited by purgatori; 12-10-2019 at 06:50 PM. Reason: 'relic' changed to 'artefact'

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