Crossover events and breaking immersion

[KaitoAsaha]

If it breaks your immersion then don't do it?

I'm confused. Is one's "immersion" in a fictional world really that important and fragile?

I agree. Don't root your immersion into an mmorpg, of all things, especially if you're so adamant on it. You have very little control of what you're exposed to when other players are involved and developers can change it up on you at a moments whim. Keep it to single player RPGs. And if you can't do that then.. I dunno. You're doing an injustice to yourself willingly by then. We're on this ride together, buddy. Take it easy?

[TheGrimace]

Your face is breaking my immersion!

MST3K crossover event with Torgo trial fight that rewards Crow and Servo minions that trash talk your performance.

I have never needed anything as much as I need this right now. Chuck Cameron Mitchell in there and we've got the ultimate crossover.

[MrKusakabe]

Crossover stuff breaks your immersion but not catgirls in scantily clad outfits wielding a giant sword?

You and some posters here don't understand that it's still "okay" if a catgirl (FFXIV race) uses a feature of the game (changing clothes) or weapons (giant swords) known to the game. Because a bikini tank - as much a I dislike them - are still FFXIV players in FFXIV wearing FFXIV bikinis. If suddenly there is a "Master Chief" suit from Halo going on, then this is out of bounds obviously.

When I was playing Guild Wars 2 I liked it's cleanliness: It was focussed on itself and developing its own style further. There were GW1 references lately, but this made sense. When I saw Yokai Watch here I thought I accidently accessed some fansite of a Final Fantasy and Digimon fan that has no clue about and created his twisted and insane dreamworld of everything he likes combined together instead of a AAA title that should be proud to have an own identity and developing that further so people have memories to XIV as being "that" game with "this" art/lore - which apparentley are not. I see FFXIV as fanservice. Like a restaurant that offers microwave meals of warmed up stuff from the past (XI, XV, XIII events) or from others (Yokai Watch) instead of self-made cuisine. (And yes, I have been to such a joint in my vacation '98. It was absolutely mediocre food)

Driving a flying car is still more FFXIV than many other of the garbage that has been added.

If it breaks your immersion then don't do it?

I'm confused. Is one's "immersion" in a fictional world really that important and fragile?

"Don't do it". Is there a way to disable non-FFXIV assets? I am in then. Replace the Regalia with a default Chocobo, disable pets/companions that do not belong here. It works, GW2 has a "default model" feature for low-spec PCs and many people play like that. You look like the same then, but at least no ridiculous external franchises then. I mean, why not? It is just "fragile and fictional" as you just said yourself, so you are with me here I assume from your statement.

But else, what is your statement when "I am not doing it" and I still see it by the others? And yes, immersion is a thing, it's like the corporate/brand identity that is the reason why I am playing FFXIV and not Yokai or Nier Automata. I wonder if you and like-minded even think before typing. Let's have a Tomb Raider cross-over, and then DooM 2: Hell on Earth please because I actually really like and still play this game. But if this happens, the game get's down to software renderer and 320x200@256 colours and 35fps (because that is DooM's limit!) because ...

"WHO NEEDZ IMMERZIONZ. Just don't do it!"

Temple of Qarn DooM - not that we get a Indiana Jones cross event, too now because of that name!

Replace health potions with Half Life medikits and add sniper rifles for some nice Counter Strike experience and your next buffood is a "Long Chicken King Menu", delivered in a Mogry Mailman in red-and-yellow DHL uniform - which let you pay the shipping fees in PayPal Points because Gil are too much Final Fantasy. And the next, improved version of the Regalia will be an electro - because Elon Musk and this Yoshida guy like each other so much!

I know that you guys often wish this game to be a shrill clown fiesta, but the way you advocate for this watering down is just incomprehensible to me. I often wonder and am sure you guys are burnt out of the game and want diversity by watering down this game's style instead of playing those games and let this be a real Final Fantasy title. I mean, just play something else then instead of accepting these changes. I came here because I enjoy it to be Final Fantasy, but it should keep a healthy balance and do not step over a certain level of randmoness, e.g. handgun laserweapons from Star Wars or Super Soakers for our new tank profession?

In LoL you can, for example, turn off their bullshit (Arcade map accents, World Championship accents) to play the game as it is supposed to be. So yes, immersion is a thing.

[Daranion]

I'm 100% behind Kusakabe. These people who want a total clown party really get on my nerves. You can want crossover stuff, that's fine, but at least let it keep the same flavor.For every person who likes immersion and a cohesive world of final fantasy, there seems to be even more people who want to wear a crash bandicoot outfit, with pizzabox weapon, in oversized timbs, running around with their Hatsune Miku minion before flying off on the back of homer simpson belching flames. And if you don't like that, you're just one of those weird immersion loving people trying to stifle fun.

[grinkdaboy]

pic related: i sleep




pic related: MY IMERSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[He-Saiyan]

The irony? Fantasy is defined as....

"The faculty or activity of imagining things, especially things that are impossible or improbable"

This is why FF has crossed medieval, sci-fi, & Far Eastern themes. It impossible to break immersion. A fantasy is limitless, only limited by the imagination.

[Alucard135]

A fantasy is limitless

So is the power to necro threads.

[VenKitsune]

You talk about immersion...But they literally added Viera from FF12 in to 14 only and ONLY because people wanted it so badly...They didnt even change the name of the race!
Is that immersive? Its immersive that Viera are only in the universe because the investors were shouting at SE to add them?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

You talk about immersion...But they literally added Viera from FF12 in to 14 only and ONLY because people wanted it so badly...They didnt even change the name of the race!
Is that immersive? Its immersive that Viera are only in the universe because the investors were shouting at SE to add them?

FYI Viera were originally gonna be added back in HW. The reason they Wernt was because they wanted to make a new original race instead.
They were added in ShB because it might be the last time they could develop a race for the game...and the Viera were requested for years.

Where does everyone get this "The Investors made them do it" crap from? Like the developers and director can't make their own decisions

[MitsukiKimura]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I personally don't like crossover events with long lasting rewards that don't quite fit with the game lore/story line.

It feels like watching a Lord of the Rings movie that is interrupted with X-Men adds, taking you out of the immersion.

I understand some players like crossover events and their rewards, but there should be a line drawn on what's a fitting crossover and what isn't.

Isn't longer a role playing game when you break character and story rules.

It's free rewards and you get a little story to go with it. What's there to complain about? I'd charge you $15 bucks just for that response