Crossover events and breaking immersion

[BloodBahamut]

Why not add Drakengard to it as a raid now that Nier has been added? Maybe make the dragons from drakengard to be mounts to and be able to obtain gear from it like zero's clothes would make a nice glamour. It'd be pretty fun flying around on the dragons and imagine being able to spit fireballs while on dragon back I personally love Mikhail and Angelius it wouldn't be hard to add it given we already have midgardsormr as a space dragon by technicallity. I would be more the happy to do those fights to get them as mounts and gear

[TheMightyMollusk]

The car is just another oddball piece of magitek.

Rathalos is just another dragon.

Those chocobo and paisa houses are just tacky.

[FirstnameLastname]

but muh immersive roleplay reee

[EtherRose]

I hope this a joke. You're talking about crossover events breaking "immersion" when you have the Gold Saucer which is from FF7. You have various raids from other FF games such as FF8/FF Tactics and the Nier Raid, etc. But you only talk about crossover events. What.....Idk.

[Shurrikhan]

I hope this a joke. You're talking about crossover events breaking "immersion" when you have the Gold Saucer which is from FF7. You have various raids from other FF games such as FF8/FF Tactics and the Nier Raid, etc. But you only talk about crossover events. What.....Idk.

That seems a bit disingenuous. One is reference. The other, crossover.

Gold Saucer is a casino built by an entrepreneur established among XIV characters and hailing from a city which, from the beginning, has been the base of vastly wealthy businessmen. Someone who'd never played FF7 would have no reason to expect it wasn't side-content solely for XIV and coming solely from XIV.

Leaving a giant city inside a hill that takes all of 12 seconds to fly over, using not a single established XIV character, is hardly the same thing.

Cid is a reference. Most players will know that our Cid is one of many. But he's still distinctly XIV's Cid, who was built around XIV's world specifically.

NieR is a crossover. It has no connection to XIV except in that it was tossed in there, with only the narrowest excuse of preceding plot -- we see hole, we go down hole, we see 2B butt, we follow 2B butt, something, something, city inside hole inside hill far smaller than said city.

[SenorPatty]

I think that, at this current point of the game, it's better for the people who value immersion to come to terms that this will not be a thing at all, no matter how many times you make a case for it. Perhaps some of you of the immersion crowd finally made peace with that. Some of you made compromises and kept stretching your lines. So I guess this particular post is for the crowd that is still hanging on desperately onto the tiniest shred of hope that immersion will be restored at some point:

It won't.

I say this from a point of care: find another place for your immersion. No really. You will only aggravate yourselves into thinking "oh maybe in the future, they'll stop adding really out of this world stuff into the game".

They won't. Save yourselves the time and agony and play another game that truly cares for immersion.

[Sated]

Ideally I'd much rather spend time on quests that expand on the existing FFXIV universe than bring content from other games that are like cramming a square peg into a circle hole. I'm not a fan of crossovers either, but as long as they find a way to make it work in the FFXIV universe I've come to accept them even though I've yet to experience one I cared about personally - Nier, FFXII, FFXV, Garo, Monster Hunter - I do not know about or care for these things, but the content was interesting and the rewards were nice.

But for immersion specifically, quests outside of the MSQ go a bit off anyway sometimes - like what even is Hildibrand? He operates outside a lot of the game logic but it's fun and they made it work - it's the same with cross-overs, the difference is just that Hildi is home-brewed crazy while others are imported from other games crazy and NPCs having to deal with either just kinda accept that they're there for the ride.

[KalinOrthos]

*drives up in FF15 car in full frog suit*

This new Nier crap is breaking my immersion. Not like that Ivalice event.

[Shurrikhan]

*drives up in FF15 car in full frog suit*

This new Nier crap is breaking my immersion. Not like that Ivalice event.

To be fair, people complained the heck out of both the Fenrir bike and XV's Regalia.

And at least the Ivalice event tied into a globetrotting expansion of trying to discover the extent of the Garlean empire's reach and unite other powers in avenging themselves against said empire. In that sense, it was just one more land, albeit one without an actual zone (though we could say the same for HW 24-mans which nonetheless fit right in, or the World of Darkness raid back in ARR) wherein to discover the empire's wrongdoings and find secrets and potential allies. Par for the course.

[Avidria]

People in metallic bikinis and hot pink frog suits standing behind me in MSQ roulette do more to break my immersion than any crossover event ever has. And those are part of the base game. :P