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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    The story is legitimately the most important thing in the eyes of the developers and for many in the community. While I get that some people don't like it the people willing to go back and re-experience the story are hardly a 'small group'.
    You probably didn't understand what I was saying. The amount of people who love the story so much that they want to do it AGAIN with the SAME character isn't high. Most people I know complain about ARR and the story being stretched way too much. It's just a completely useless feature in an MMORPG - It's a single player game mechanic for people who want to replay the game without giving up their established character, just repeating the same quests you did before didn't need a "game mode" but a simple menu where you can start a mission from a mission list of "solved quests".

    Especially in a game which could need work on so many edges, being able to replay the MQS with the same character does seem very unimportant. you can always just create a new char and relive it, if you REALLY miss the 100 ARR fetchquests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BatLW View Post
    You probably didn't understand what I was saying. The amount of people who love the story so much that they want to do it AGAIN with the SAME character isn't high. Most people I know complain about ARR and the story being stretched way too much. It's just a completely useless feature in an MMORPG - It's a single player game mechanic for people who want to replay the game without giving up their established character, just repeating the same quests you did before didn't need a "game mode" but a simple menu where you can start a mission from a mission list of "solved quests".

    Especially in a game which could need work on so many edges, being able to replay the MQS with the same character does seem very unimportant. you can always just create a new char and relive it, if you REALLY miss the 100 ARR fetchquests.
    The reason they're even putting NG+ in is because it was highely requested... Where are you even getting this from?


    As a long time FF fan, the only reason I, and many others, even started playing FFXIV was for the story. As soon as NG+ hits, I'm running through it again. Well... I'd run through Shb again first, but that won't be possible when NG+ hits, so, starting from ARR it is.

    Really though, eff the Titan quest line. Man I hated that so much... the running back and forth was tedious, sure, but I hated the NPCs attitudes more than anything. Their reasoning for sending you to and fro it was paper thin, too... Testing us? Uh... already killed a primal, not our first rodeo, guys. Come on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BatLW View Post
    You probably didn't understand what I was saying. The amount of people who love the story so much that they want to do it AGAIN with the SAME character isn't high.
    [citations needed]
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    Quote Originally Posted by BatLW View Post
    You probably didn't understand what I was saying. The amount of people who love the story so much that they want to do it AGAIN with the SAME character isn't high. Most people I know complain about ARR and the story being stretched way too much. It's just a completely useless feature in an MMORPG - It's a single player game mechanic for people who want to replay the game without giving up their established character, just repeating the same quests you did before didn't need a "game mode" but a simple menu where you can start a mission from a mission list of "solved quests".

    Especially in a game which could need work on so many edges, being able to replay the MQS with the same character does seem very unimportant. you can always just create a new char and relive it, if you REALLY miss the 100 ARR fetchquests.
    Oh I got what you were saying perfectly. I'm disagreeing with you. Especially since they already said they were reducing the worst parts of ARR and without the leveling grind attached to it, it becomes a much more enticing way to replay the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Oh I got what you were saying perfectly. I'm disagreeing with you. Especially since they already said they were reducing the worst parts of ARR and without the leveling grind attached to it, it becomes a much more enticing way to replay the story.
    So I assume you read a book, then tear out the filler pages and read it again - for a more enticing way to enjoy the story?

    I would rather, you know, read a different book - or play another game, with a new story. But that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BatLW View Post
    I would rather, you know, read a different book - or play another game, with a new story. But that's just me.
    Yes, that's just you. Glad we can all agree on that. Plus, we just got a new story and more of it is gonna be on the way. So maybe just let folks get and enjoy the feature that they have been requesting for a long while? Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BatLW View Post
    So I assume you read a book, then tear out the filler pages and read it again - for a more enticing way to enjoy the story?

    I would rather, you know, read a different book - or play another game, with a new story. But that's just me.
    A better analogy would be reading an un-beta'd first draft then once done wanting the author to clean up the unnecessary bits that detract from the overall story and pacing for a clearer experience the second time around. You can cut a good chunk of the quests from ARR and not have the story suffer a single bit. Doubly so for the grind between 2.1-2.55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    A better analogy would be reading an un-beta'd first draft then once done wanting the author to clean up the unnecessary bits that detract from the overall story and pacing for a clearer experience the second time around. You can cut a good chunk of the quests from ARR and not have the story suffer a single bit. Doubly so for the grind between 2.1-2.55.
    I am glad you realized. Because this is true for EVERY AddOn so far. And SE still decides its super fun for the Warrior of the Universe He-Man Godeater Worlddestroyer to run and search 3 Choco Chicken and deliver 2 pieces of grass to a vegetarian Lalafel during the Main Story just to proceed. It's actually a kick in the face if they let you suffer through BS quests just to introduce a "good" version of it later on to "re-live".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Oh I got what you were saying perfectly. I'm disagreeing with you. Especially since they already said they were reducing the worst parts of ARR and without the leveling grind attached to it, it becomes a much more enticing way to replay the story.
    Did they say that in conjunction with New Game Plus, or just as an unrelated thought bubble?

    I'm pretty sure NG+ is just letting you hit reset on the story as it currently exists.

    Also if they ever review/adjust the existing scripts, it would almost certainly apply to the original run as well, not just the replay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Did they say that in conjunction with New Game Plus, or just as an unrelated thought bubble?

    I'm pretty sure NG+ is just letting you hit reset on the story as it currently exists.

    Also if they ever review/adjust the existing scripts, it would almost certainly apply to the original run as well, not just the replay.
    Pretty sure it's been an unrelated thought bubble for awhile. The first rumblings I heard of it were back during the initial Jump Potion debacle but it didn't seem to be a potential 'thing' until the last few years.
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